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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Croak" data-source="post: 511410" data-attributes="member: 2367"><p>This is actually part of the reason why I admire the Bundesliga so much. The idea of a club instead of a big fat cat owner really brings the game back to the populace. In fact that's part of the reason why I've loved the Packers for so many years.  There are quite a few things I saw in Germany that the U.S. would do well to imitate. It seems Germans tend to value the "collective" consciousness a lot more than the U.S. where folks have mostly a me first consciousness. I think the Packers also try to keep that kind of collective experience in Green Bay which is rare in the U.S.</p></blockquote><p></p>

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