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<blockquote data-quote="TJV" data-source="post: 492209" data-attributes="member: 4300"><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">IMO this illustrates the confusion of criticism of Thompson's use of free agency. The most ridiculous - again just my opinion - is actually true: He doesn't jump in during the first two or three days of UFA and outbid other teams for a player and pay them huge money. Every year, probably including the year Woodson was signed we've heard and read this criticism. '_____ team signed _____ player, WHAT ARE WE DOING!!??' And we've certainly read the same thing over the past few days. I got a kick out of Greg Jennings' one word tweet yesterday (as reported, I didn't read it), "patience". Some posters here should heed that advice. Thompson has never jumped into the fray during the first few days and signed a player to a big contract - why Packers fans spend energy whining about something that hasn't happened and is unlikely to happen as long as Ted is GM is beyond me. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">If the criticism is Thompson never signs a big name UFA for big money, that's just wrong but just barely so. Woodson was both a big name and received big money but the market for his services came down to two teams, the Packers and the Bucs and he wasn't signed during the first few weeks of UFA. IOW, if one of the big spending GMs had wanted Woodson and were willing to grossly overpay him, the Packers wouldn't have acquired him. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Here's a recap of Thompson's free agent signings, ignoring the retention of Packers even if they became UFAs and ignoring UDFAs even if they became very good - like Shields - because those kinds of signings are not <em>exciting </em>enough for many Packers fans:</span></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #333333">2005</span></span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #333333"> G Adrian Klemm and G Matt O'Dwyer. O'Dwyer was signed for the minimum and Klemm was bad. These signings were due to the release of Wahle who was due a huge bonus and the loss of Rivera, who Jerry Jones overpaid by a substantial amount. Thompson couldn't restructure Wahle and fix the cap quickly and rebuild the team and he would have been crazy to match the deal Rivera got. So he signed two vets but neither worked out. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #333333">2006</span></span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #333333"> CB Charles Woodson, DT Ryan Pickett, S Marquand Manuel, WR Marc Boerigter, and LB Ben Taylor. IMO Woodson qualifies as the only huge money signing in Thompson's tenure and probably ranks only after Reggie's signing as a huge success. Pickett was another success, just not a huge money signing. Manuel started for a season. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #333333">2007</span></span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #333333"> CB Frank Walker. He played one season. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #333333">2008</span></span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #333333"> LB Brandon Chillar. He played for three seasons and was a decent signing IMO, but not a big money one. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #333333">2009</span></span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #333333"> OG Duke Preston and S Anthony Smith. Neither survived TC. The Packers reacquired Smith in 2010 but he got injured. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #333333">2010</span></span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #333333"> S Charlie Peprah and LB Erik Walden. Slim pick'ns in UFA but the Packers won it all anyway. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #333333">2011 </span></span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #333333">None.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #333333">2012</span></span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #333333"> RB Cedric Benson, OC Jeff Saturday, DL Anthony Hargrove, DL Phillip Merling, and DT Daniel Muir. Saturday and Benson were starters until the former wore out and the latter got injured. None of the DL stuck although I still wonder if Muir wasn't better than some of the keepers. But this was the first UFA period Thompson signed two vets who immediately started since 2006. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #333333">(BTW, a couple of the above may not have technically been UFAs but they weren't current Packers at their signings and they weren't UDFAs.)</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #333333">In spite of not being a big player in UFA since 2006, Thompson heads a front office that many, if not most NFL observers would rank in the top 5. That's why I think the criticism that he won't outrageously overpay a UFA in the first 48 hours of UFA unfounded. </span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TJV, post: 492209, member: 4300"] [FONT=Arial]IMO this illustrates the confusion of criticism of Thompson's use of free agency. The most ridiculous - again just my opinion - is actually true: He doesn't jump in during the first two or three days of UFA and outbid other teams for a player and pay them huge money. Every year, probably including the year Woodson was signed we've heard and read this criticism. '_____ team signed _____ player, WHAT ARE WE DOING!!??' And we've certainly read the same thing over the past few days. I got a kick out of Greg Jennings' one word tweet yesterday (as reported, I didn't read it), "patience". Some posters here should heed that advice. Thompson has never jumped into the fray during the first few days and signed a player to a big contract - why Packers fans spend energy whining about something that hasn't happened and is unlikely to happen as long as Ted is GM is beyond me. [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]If the criticism is Thompson never signs a big name UFA for big money, that's just wrong but just barely so. Woodson was both a big name and received big money but the market for his services came down to two teams, the Packers and the Bucs and he wasn't signed during the first few weeks of UFA. IOW, if one of the big spending GMs had wanted Woodson and were willing to grossly overpay him, the Packers wouldn't have acquired him. [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]Here's a recap of Thompson's free agent signings, ignoring the retention of Packers even if they became UFAs and ignoring UDFAs even if they became very good - like Shields - because those kinds of signings are not [I]exciting [/I]enough for many Packers fans:[/FONT] [B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#333333]2005[/COLOR][/FONT][/B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#333333] G Adrian Klemm and G Matt O'Dwyer. O'Dwyer was signed for the minimum and Klemm was bad. These signings were due to the release of Wahle who was due a huge bonus and the loss of Rivera, who Jerry Jones overpaid by a substantial amount. Thompson couldn't restructure Wahle and fix the cap quickly and rebuild the team and he would have been crazy to match the deal Rivera got. So he signed two vets but neither worked out. [/COLOR][/FONT] [B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#333333]2006[/COLOR][/FONT][/B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#333333] CB Charles Woodson, DT Ryan Pickett, S Marquand Manuel, WR Marc Boerigter, and LB Ben Taylor. IMO Woodson qualifies as the only huge money signing in Thompson's tenure and probably ranks only after Reggie's signing as a huge success. Pickett was another success, just not a huge money signing. Manuel started for a season. [/COLOR][/FONT] [B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#333333]2007[/COLOR][/FONT][/B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#333333] CB Frank Walker. He played one season. [/COLOR][/FONT] [B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#333333]2008[/COLOR][/FONT][/B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#333333] LB Brandon Chillar. He played for three seasons and was a decent signing IMO, but not a big money one. [/COLOR][/FONT] [B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#333333]2009[/COLOR][/FONT][/B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#333333] OG Duke Preston and S Anthony Smith. Neither survived TC. The Packers reacquired Smith in 2010 but he got injured. [/COLOR][/FONT] [B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#333333]2010[/COLOR][/FONT][/B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#333333] S Charlie Peprah and LB Erik Walden. Slim pick'ns in UFA but the Packers won it all anyway. [/COLOR][/FONT] [B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#333333]2011 [/COLOR][/FONT][/B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#333333]None.[/COLOR][/FONT] [B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#333333]2012[/COLOR][/FONT][/B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#333333] RB Cedric Benson, OC Jeff Saturday, DL Anthony Hargrove, DL Phillip Merling, and DT Daniel Muir. Saturday and Benson were starters until the former wore out and the latter got injured. None of the DL stuck although I still wonder if Muir wasn't better than some of the keepers. But this was the first UFA period Thompson signed two vets who immediately started since 2006. [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#333333](BTW, a couple of the above may not have technically been UFAs but they weren't current Packers at their signings and they weren't UDFAs.)[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#333333]In spite of not being a big player in UFA since 2006, Thompson heads a front office that many, if not most NFL observers would rank in the top 5. That's why I think the criticism that he won't outrageously overpay a UFA in the first 48 hours of UFA unfounded. [/COLOR][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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