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Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by GWheels, Mar 11, 2013.

  1. HardRightEdge

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    You could add TB to the list, and TE if Finley is gone. There are more holes and injury question marks than we've seen in several seasons.
     
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  2. rodell330

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    Exactly. The NFC is getting tougher and what we have as of now is a team that can make the playoffs... but not win a SB. Jenkins went to New york for cheap, and Krueger is going to sign with the Browns. What is TT waiting for? We need help on defense and now two of the better guy's at their position are gone. SMH this "building through the draft" mindset is kinda getting on my nerves.
     
  3. HardRightEdge

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    Now, now. Those are the only two I could think of off the top of my head. There are surely more. I was simply observing that Breer was wrong; I was not providing a Packer prescription. As for Woodson not being "top of the market", what we paid him says otherwise.

    It's not a question of either big name signings or "just guys" for the vet minimum. Why do people always think in extremes? There's the wide middle ground where decent players can be had, and likely at a good price this year. Canty, for example, would be valuable add if proven to be healthy and reasonably priced.
     
  4. 13 Times Champs

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    Business as usual won't be enough. Look I agree the draft is and should be the staple in building a team. But Thompson has to step outside those boundaries this year.
     
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  5. BorderRivals.com

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    CNNSI.com ranks the Packers front office as the second-best in the league because of its draft-and-develop and avoid pricey free ageny spending that more often dooms teams than rewards them. Winners in March don't win in January/February.
     
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  6. MidnightToker

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    Pro Football Talk reporting that the Packers are current leaders for RB Steven Jackson!!
     
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  7. rodell330

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    We've been embarassed two years in a row in the playoffs..i think it's time for a new approach dontcha think?
     
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  8. BorderRivals.com

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    43-27 in the last five years, 2 division titles, and always one of the top-5 teams to win the SB. I like our approach frankly.
     
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  9. rodell330

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    We don't need Steven Jackson smh!! he's good but can he rush the passer? can he cover like a corner and hit like a linebacker? i'd much rather make a splash on defense then bring in Steven Jackson. Scoring points is not our issue..it's stopping people.
     
  10. rodell330

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    I hear ya bro, i really do. However bringing in some help to improve upon that success isn't going to hurt.
     
  11. MidnightToker

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    I want him. As long as Dom keeps running our defense into the ground, we'll need to score 60 points to win each game. Thus, Aaron Rodgers + Steven Jackson
     
  12. HyponGrey

    HyponGrey Caseus Locutus Est

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    TE RB LB are all draft fixable or at the very least cheap. LT and DE not so much. Plus "Never overpay for skill players" is slowly becoming dogma to me.
     
  13. AmishMafia

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    You have to agree, teams that do a lot of FA spending have not won the SB in some time.

    As far as getting average players and decent value - what is the point? Why would you get an average player and higher $$$ when we have average players who may develop into better? Any player above average commands a premium price. TT, nor I, for that matter, is against going after FAs. Its just a rare situation when it actually helps your team. The 3 veteran DLs we signed last year, people were excited. In the end, only 1 made the roster, and he was cut after a few weeks.

    The problem with your logic is that there is a finite resource (salary cap) available. If spending money was the answer to improving your team - we would never win. There are several owners more than willing to throw everything they have at it to win. The best you can do, as a GM, is to assemble as much talent potential on the roster and hope a few players each year emerge to put you over the hump and its enough to win the SB. SB is the goal of everyone who is a Packer fan. There are 31 other teams, and 1600 other players who would run over their own mother to win the SB. It is not easy. Its not fair to call a season a failure if we don't win it. There are too many items out of TT's control - injuries and ignorant refs spring to mind quickly. But sometimes it can come down to a ball landing on its nose, does it bounce into the end zone for a touchback or does it bounce out at the 1 ft line.

    It will more likely hurt than help.
     
  14. 13 Times Champs

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    No the logic isn't flawed. Yes there is a salary cap. All the rest you said is fluff.
     
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  15. adambr2

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    Is the $18M under the cap that we're at including the rollover cap room from last year? I would assume yes, but just curious.
     
  16. HardRightEdge

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    Yes, the $7 mil rollover is included is included in the $18 mil.
     
  17. longtimefan

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    Packers have a new cap guru I believe..So his thinking may help sway Ted..

    Not saying it will, but one could hope
     
  18. HardRightEdge

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    Really? What happened to Ball?
     
  19. longtimefan

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    Nothing

    For some reason I thought Dorsey was the cap guy..I made mistake
     
  20. HardRightEdge

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    No problem. So far, it's all going according to the typical script. Normally, I would endorse the conservative approach. This year...I think there are just too many holes, too many big injury uncertainties, to patch with draft picks.

    What would really set me off, though, would be throwing money at Jennings (as the current rumor goes) while doing nothing in FA on the defensive side. That would be a weak default to a position of comfort.
     
  21. Forderick

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    while I agree about the defence being bad, but a good running game can eat up the clock giving the defence time to rest. this would in turn make them fresher and better.

    and I just read that Chris Canty signed with the Ravens for a 3 year 8 million dollar deal. He might not be the best but at that price it would have been worth it, not only for depth but for his knowledge of the Giants system a team the packers can't beat.
     
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  22. longtimefan

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    Link somewhere on the forum stating the Packers dr wouldnt approve his physical
     
  23. GeeDogWarrior

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    Young developing defense that was 11th in the league in spite of the injuries.
    Our offense was still productive in spite of our starting tackles and runningback on IR.
    11-5 10-6(superbowl win) 15-1 11-5
    basically perennial contenders, yet we're whining about "HOLES!?!?!?" ... so we should hit the panic button (ala jerry jones) and make drastic moves to address these "holes" ? - "Let's go buy Brandon Carr - let's go trade up for Morris Claiborne." ... then be stuck restructuring contracts for the next several years, no thanks.

    Draft - Develop ... stay the course, then watch as the 49ers/seahawks have to either cut a bunch of good players/or restructure a ton of contracts in the next year or so...
     
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  24. 13 Times Champs

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    Canty to Ravens.
     
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