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Flynn showed yesterday why he is only backup QB material

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by Brandon, Dec 23, 2013.

  1. Brandon

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    Love the kid, think he deserves to be our long-term backup, and although he has showcased two weeks in a row why he may be a good starting QB, when things really mattered he ultimately let the team down on the last play.

    Blame the coaching all you want on that strange call to run the ball when the false start happened, but when the referee CLEARLY stays "Clock will wind on my whistle", there is no place for a QB to be taking his time at the snap. We easily get two plays in if Flynn takes charge and snaps the ball quickly, something I'm 100% sure Rodgers would have handled better.

    Why does it matter now? Because next week is going to be a brutal, down-to-the-wire game and while some insist Rodgers would be a risk and rusty ala Jay Cutler against the Eagles, I think he's still our best option over Flynn who has been pretty good these past weeks. We need that guy that's going to deliver when it matters most. Not to mention with Lacy and Matthews likely out, we need Aaron to step up. My two cents.
     
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  2. Forget Favre

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    Not every QB is perfect and they are human and make mistakes just like the rest of us.
    If the defense had played better and we didn't get those penalties during crucial times, we could have won.
    Don't pin it all on Flynn. This is a team sport and others deserve or need to share the blame as well.
     
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  3. Brandon

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    I agree the outcome of the game is always a team effort, but the deciding play in this particular scenario falls squarely on Flynn. The QB is the commander of the offense and needs to take charge. With 10 seconds left you scream "HIKE THE DAMN BALL" or whatever, and you make some magic happen. In fact I would have probably even liked to see him spike the ball to give them an opportunity to re-group and think about their last play.

    My point is Rodgers is more trustworthy than Flynn when it comes to crucial must-have situations like that, and in playoff games like next week will be I'd rather have him at the helm.
     
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  4. buggybill2003

    buggybill2003 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Is a broken collarbone something different in the U.S.A. or something ? The doctor has said he isn`t fit, does the doctor really work undercover for the Bears or something ?
    Why would we risk possibly a career ending injury so we can be sure of getting to the playoffs, where some in form team can wipe the floor with our injury riddled team ? I`m not trying to disrespect you or anybody in particular here but some people seem to think there is some kind of conspiracy or something going on. CM3 was an example of returning too soon, and what was a simple broken thumb will now require surgery, and we all know how THAT can work out.
    Flynn did the best he could with the tools he had, and with the plays he was given. My two cents worth
     
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  5. buggybill2003

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    My point is Rodgers is more trustworthy than Flynn when it comes to crucial must-have situations like that, and in playoff games like next week will be I'd rather have him at the helm.[/quote]

    Of course he is, thats why he`s our starting QB. When he`s fit
     
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  6. Brandon

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    Unless I missed something the initial report was a minor fracture that would require 6-8 weeks to heal, and we're closing in on that 8 week timeline. Also reports keep saying he's no at 100% but he's zipping the ball pretty accurately, which tells me that most of this is precautionary. He can play, but erring on the side of caution for now. After 8 weeks I don't see how a minor fracture equates to taking a big hit leading to anything career-ending. Pretty sure Charle's Woodson suffered a more severe break of the same injury and played the following year.
     
  7. buggybill2003

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    The starting Quarterback is a bit more important to the team than a secondary team player. Sorry, we`d have to agree to disagree here but, I SERIOUSLY think a doctor would not say he wasn`t fully fit if he actually was.
    The Bears would target him from the word go, and we know some of them would happily take the fine and ejection from the game to re-injure him. This game is that important.
     
  8. Brandon

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    And that might be the case, but why is everything being so shady right now? To me every week seems like there's a good chance of a green light since he's continually re-evaluated. If he was seriously not close, why don't the team doctors just come out and say he's done? I think that's what is frustrating me more than anything.
     
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    And I respect your opinion on that, maybe they have a good reason to keep their cards close to their chest.
     
  10. Bignutz

    Bignutz I'm a victim of coicumstances!

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    Pardon me but BULLSHIT!!! Matt Flynn didn't lose that game! We put up 31 points! That should have been enough but for our awful defense!!! Capers must go!!! We can't stop anybody!! Win or lose next Sunday it will be because of our crappy defense! We would have lost that game no matter who the QB was!!!!!!
     
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  11. longtimefan

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    They had two plays called...The ref wouldnt allow EDS snap the ball..Wasnt Flynn's fault
     
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    Displaced fractures actually have a tendency to heal faster because more blood supply is directed to the fracture site to promote healing. Cracks can take longer to heal because that infux of blood to the area doesn't really happen.
     
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    Flynn zeros in on 1 WR. He always has. He doesn't go through the progressions.
     
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    Our defense only gave up 24 points by their own fault. Flynn gave them 7 points by throwing up one of the worst ducks of a pass I've seen in a long time. They got 7 more points because Flynn fumbled and put us in a situation where we had to let them score so we could have a chance at overtime -- a strategy that would have worked if he had not missed a wide open Jordy Nelson on the final play. Flynn certainly DID have a major hand in this loss.
     
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    This isnt a minor fracture...Why do people think they know how bad, or not so bad Rodgers injury is? No offense, but unless people have real connections, no one knows whats up with it


    Woodson was out 10 weeks with his break...
     
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  16. longtimefan

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    Heard that was a run and Flynn checked out of it and Quarless didnt hear the call..
     
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    Yeah, but it was still an ugly duck of a pass.
     
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    Quarless hit him I thought?
     
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    I initially thought he merely grazed him, but on the replay it was quite a wallop, so the fact he even got ANY pass off was a feat in itself. Just how I saw it.
     
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  20. 13 Times Champs

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    Nelson was open on the final throw. Flynn locked on Boydkin. Fumble was all on Flynn but Quarless affected throw on int.
     
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    It's true Quarless affected Flynn on the interception, but it seems like Flynn opted out of a run play but only told the targeted receiver about it.
     
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    I will get beat up for this but, it's Flynn from here on. it's up to the COACH to get this guy prepared!! prepared!! if not they can't be much use as a coach(s) and should be replaced,I have myself a broken collar bone with 5 screws and even today is still a problem, and I do not have 300 pounders landing on me, besides A-rod never has a come back game win when down by 20+pts,(let the beating begin)…….
     
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  23. red4tribe

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    I'm going to second you, Flynn doesn't deserve to be criticized for his 4th quarter play, and as much as it'll hurt to hear these numbers, Flynn has three 4th quarter comebacks in less than 10 career starts while Rodgers has five in six years as a starter. Not taking anything away from Rodgers, there are many reasons for those numbers that don't involve him but my point is that Flynn has been very solid in the 4th, overall.
     
  24. 13 Times Champs

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    Flynn is getting beat up a bit for not being Aaron Rodgers. He's not close. Anyone surprised???
     
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  25. longtimefan

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    Could it be Flynn doesnt do good in 1st half (Dallas, Falcon games) that makes him HAVE to get a 4th q comeback?

    And maybe Rodgers is winning at half time, 3rd q and no need to have a comeback?

    Someone find the score of the Packers with Rodgers going into the 4th q
     
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