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<blockquote data-quote="Magooch" data-source="post: 1090439" data-attributes="member: 17987"><p>This is turning into a really tricky situation.</p><p></p><p>Honestly, in spite of our total collapse this year...it kinda feels like LaFleur still has more leverage here? </p><p></p><p>- He knows that we don't want a "lame duck" or "prove it" year...and by extension understands that if Hafley leaves it's going to be very hard to sign a replacement DC (and possibly other assistants) when the HC is going to be gone in a year</p><p></p><p>- He knows that any even somewhat "proven" replacement will likely cost us as much as LaFleur is asking for. Look at guys like Ben Johnson, Liam Coen, Mike McDonald, etc. They had no HC experience and immediately got like 13m+ per year. </p><p></p><p>- He recognizes that nearly 1/3rd of the league is looking for head coaches right now. That means he will likely have a bigger "market" AND that we'll potentially have more competition in signing a replacement. This ties into the above - if we want an "in-demand" hire, we will have to outbid others (and I don't think there is really any "Ben Johnson" type guy available this cycle)</p><p></p><p>- He effectively has complete "veto control" over any possible trade</p><p></p><p>- He knows that at the end of the day we DO want to continue with him as HC, at least to some extent. The fact that they are still in negotiations and haven't cut them off and/or fired him makes that pretty clear</p><p></p><p>- He knows that he does have a "market" and can likely find a team that would meet his requested contract demands. So the idea of a "conditional" deal (i.e. 3 year deal that adds +2 years with a NFCCG or something) doesn't carry any weight when he can get 5 years no-strings-attached elsewhere</p><p></p><p>- He knows that it would be best for us to resolve the situation sooner than later. Getting a deal done enables us to work on assistant positions sooner (esp. if Hafley leaves); if we ultimately decide to move on from LaFleur we don't want to find ourselves in a situation where our top candidates have already signed elsewhere. Either way, a speedier resolution is preferred</p><p></p><p>So, I don't really know what we do here. </p><p>I can certainly understand that position from LaFleur's perspective (and anyone saying things like "He should take a worse contract cuz he hasn't won anything for us!" are being ridiculous lol), but I get the team's trepidation as well. LaFleur has been here for 7 years; if we sign him to a 5-year extension (as he seemingly wants) we could very well find ourselves in a spot where he's been here for 10 years with no Super Bowl and we're still on the hook to pay him another $30m or something. So yeah...I don't really know lol</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Magooch, post: 1090439, member: 17987"] This is turning into a really tricky situation. Honestly, in spite of our total collapse this year...it kinda feels like LaFleur still has more leverage here? - He knows that we don't want a "lame duck" or "prove it" year...and by extension understands that if Hafley leaves it's going to be very hard to sign a replacement DC (and possibly other assistants) when the HC is going to be gone in a year - He knows that any even somewhat "proven" replacement will likely cost us as much as LaFleur is asking for. Look at guys like Ben Johnson, Liam Coen, Mike McDonald, etc. They had no HC experience and immediately got like 13m+ per year. - He recognizes that nearly 1/3rd of the league is looking for head coaches right now. That means he will likely have a bigger "market" AND that we'll potentially have more competition in signing a replacement. This ties into the above - if we want an "in-demand" hire, we will have to outbid others (and I don't think there is really any "Ben Johnson" type guy available this cycle) - He effectively has complete "veto control" over any possible trade - He knows that at the end of the day we DO want to continue with him as HC, at least to some extent. The fact that they are still in negotiations and haven't cut them off and/or fired him makes that pretty clear - He knows that he does have a "market" and can likely find a team that would meet his requested contract demands. So the idea of a "conditional" deal (i.e. 3 year deal that adds +2 years with a NFCCG or something) doesn't carry any weight when he can get 5 years no-strings-attached elsewhere - He knows that it would be best for us to resolve the situation sooner than later. Getting a deal done enables us to work on assistant positions sooner (esp. if Hafley leaves); if we ultimately decide to move on from LaFleur we don't want to find ourselves in a situation where our top candidates have already signed elsewhere. Either way, a speedier resolution is preferred So, I don't really know what we do here. I can certainly understand that position from LaFleur's perspective (and anyone saying things like "He should take a worse contract cuz he hasn't won anything for us!" are being ridiculous lol), but I get the team's trepidation as well. LaFleur has been here for 7 years; if we sign him to a 5-year extension (as he seemingly wants) we could very well find ourselves in a spot where he's been here for 10 years with no Super Bowl and we're still on the hook to pay him another $30m or something. So yeah...I don't really know lol [/QUOTE]
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