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<blockquote data-quote="Magooch" data-source="post: 1083509" data-attributes="member: 17987"><p>I just really don't know. I think both Gute and LaFleur have a lot of things they've done (do) really well. I think they also have a lot of deficiencies, too. </p><p></p><p>I'm sure I've said it a dozen times already, but Policy's made it clear he doesn't want either on a lame-duck contract. While they both are contracted till 2027, he's going to want to either move on or extend them ahead of that. I don't think either have really shown enough to get fired outright, but are we comfortable tying ourselves to one or both for the duration of another contract? </p><p></p><p>Gutekunst has been GM since 2018. LaFleur has been head coach since 2019. On the whole, our regular-season record has been exceptional, but at the same time...in that span we have 3 playoff wins and 5 playoff losses. </p><p></p><p>The general sense I have had for much of the season is more or less something like... "if not now, when?" </p><p>Week after week it feels like myself and others are bringing up the same issues...and they're issues that aren't just new to this season. It's the same stuff that's been happening for years now. If these things aren't getting fixed after 6, 7 years with LaFleur and 7, 8 years with Gutekunst...why should I believe things would be different if we hand them a new contract? So it's just tough. Change for the sake of change is not a good approach and you don't perfect to be the enemy of good, but I don't know...I think I said it a month or two ago - it feels like we are in leadership-purgatory. Our structure/organization/approach/roster/etc is solid enough that we won't be terrible. It's not gonna get Gute or LaFleur fired, and we're always gonna be a dangerous team to face. But I question whether or not it's ever going to be enough to get us "over the hump," either. </p><p></p><p>In general I think Matt is a great head coach, but at the same time I get the sense that some of his blind spots/shortcomings/etc are probably going to be too much to overcome for him to be the guy he needs to be to win it all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Magooch, post: 1083509, member: 17987"] I just really don't know. I think both Gute and LaFleur have a lot of things they've done (do) really well. I think they also have a lot of deficiencies, too. I'm sure I've said it a dozen times already, but Policy's made it clear he doesn't want either on a lame-duck contract. While they both are contracted till 2027, he's going to want to either move on or extend them ahead of that. I don't think either have really shown enough to get fired outright, but are we comfortable tying ourselves to one or both for the duration of another contract? Gutekunst has been GM since 2018. LaFleur has been head coach since 2019. On the whole, our regular-season record has been exceptional, but at the same time...in that span we have 3 playoff wins and 5 playoff losses. The general sense I have had for much of the season is more or less something like... "if not now, when?" Week after week it feels like myself and others are bringing up the same issues...and they're issues that aren't just new to this season. It's the same stuff that's been happening for years now. If these things aren't getting fixed after 6, 7 years with LaFleur and 7, 8 years with Gutekunst...why should I believe things would be different if we hand them a new contract? So it's just tough. Change for the sake of change is not a good approach and you don't perfect to be the enemy of good, but I don't know...I think I said it a month or two ago - it feels like we are in leadership-purgatory. Our structure/organization/approach/roster/etc is solid enough that we won't be terrible. It's not gonna get Gute or LaFleur fired, and we're always gonna be a dangerous team to face. But I question whether or not it's ever going to be enough to get us "over the hump," either. In general I think Matt is a great head coach, but at the same time I get the sense that some of his blind spots/shortcomings/etc are probably going to be too much to overcome for him to be the guy he needs to be to win it all. [/QUOTE]
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