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<blockquote data-quote="DTown SBrown" data-source="post: 302678" data-attributes="member: 2206"><p>Not saying the sky is falling, but wearing rose colored glasses when staring at **** doesnt change the scent of said ****.</p><p></p><p>-We have not played a COMPLETE GAME yet in 5 games (against less than stellar opponents)</p><p></p><p>- We are AMASSING injuries at a rate that would make a Vietnam commanding officer blush.</p><p></p><p>- we seem to be directionless at times, which after 4 seasons, should not be the case with MM anymore. We have burned through 2 OCs, 3 DCs, however many ST and strength and conditioning coaches. The only constant left is TT/ MM, and we STILL HAVE the same issues. We draft for depth, yet always have seemingly no depth past our starter. We focus on the Oline, and yet the oline is a MAJOR issue. We focus on the running game, yet cannot run.We hire a BLITZING genius (2 of them really when including Greene) yet when we need to blitz we drop in zone. there are SO MANY EXAMPLES past these I could give, but thats a whole new thread.</p><p></p><p>- ST play is still an issue!?! How, after this long can we STILL BE LOSING GAMES based off of field position and turnovers?!?!?</p><p></p><p>- Penalties at the WORST times. offensive holding on plays resulting in first downs. PI (or other auto 1st downs) always seemingly coming on 3rd down stops. </p><p></p><p>-poor clock management... over and over again. Wasting timeouts we need, not using timeouts when we should (who else saw Jordy score a TD that we DIDNT challenge. settled for a FG.) Then, with 7 seconds in the 1st half left, from the 20, we try to score (or I assume since we decided to go 5 wide 3 straight plays, one almost turning into a TO) makes zero sense.</p><p></p><p>-lack of goal line package COMPLETELY this year. Good thing we got a running game, cause it COMPLETELY negates us cutting Havner loose... OH WAIT....</p><p></p><p>Well at least we have Grant to pound it in... OH WAIT... (not that he was a pounder when we needed him anyway)</p><p></p><p>Ohh well, at least Rodgers can lob it up to Finley....</p><p></p><p>OOOpps.</p><p></p><p>and the biggest, yet most overlooked...</p><p></p><p>- We cannot closeout bad opponents, we cannot beat good opponents, either with any real consistency, and when was the last time we went down the field and won a game? Last time I remember was before the NFC championship game. All I see now is us losing games we should have won, barely winning games by playing down to our opponent, or letting an inferior opponent who at one point was down by multiple TDs roar right back into it. </p><p></p><p>I dont blame our players, That rests solidly on the coaching. MM is just not the answer. He never was. TT is not the answer. He WAS at first. He got us out of cap hell with the frugality he maintains. Now it just doesnt make sense. He seems gun shy and self doubting of pulling the trigger. </p><p></p><p>I dont claim to know what the answer is, but we have now seen 2 out of 4 seasons seemingly wasted due to an inability to adjust to the current circumstances our team finds itself in. We are, after the last 2 weeks, now looking at 3 out of 5. What moves have we made to replace what is now:</p><p></p><p>out for the year:</p><p></p><p>Nick Barnett-STARTER</p><p>Morgan Burnett-STARTER</p><p>Ryan Grant-STARTER</p><p>Will Blackman-STARTER (potential)</p><p>Allen Barbre- STARTER (potential)</p><p>Quinn Porter </p><p>Josh Bell</p><p>Justin Harrell- supposed STARTER</p><p>Johnny Jolly- STARTER ( not injury)</p><p></p><p>PUP</p><p>Al Harris- STARTER</p><p>James Starks- supposed future feature back</p><p>Atari Bigby- STARTER</p><p></p><p>and now the newest rash of injuries, NOT MINOR aches and PAINS, but true injuries:</p><p></p><p>Jermichael Finley- 2-6 weeks STARTER</p><p>Donald Lee- 2-4 weeks</p><p>Derrick Martin-2-4 weeks</p><p>Ryan Pickett- 0-2 weeks STARTER</p><p>Clay Matthews 0-2 weeks STARTER</p><p>Mark Tauscher- 1-3 weeks STARTER</p><p>Brandon Chillar- 1-3 weeks STARTER</p><p>and last but not least...</p><p></p><p>Aaron Rodgers, 0-2 weeks. STARTER</p><p></p><p></p><p>15 out of a potential 28 starters (accounting for variations in OL, DL, DBs, and LBs) </p><p></p><p>15!!!! </p><p></p><p>Saying the sky is not falling when that many starters are hurt is like saying "this is just turbulence" when your plane is short one wing and you are staring outside without looking out a window. </p><p></p><p>At this point it just sounds like we are trying to convince ourselves. I am not saying we cannot overcome, just that we are going to need some MASSIVE adjustments. </p><p></p><p>The only problem is that over the last 5 years, the whole "adjusting" thing.... not been what we are so good at. IN ANY ASPECT of this sport.</p><p></p><p>Sorry</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DTown SBrown, post: 302678, member: 2206"] Not saying the sky is falling, but wearing rose colored glasses when staring at **** doesnt change the scent of said ****. -We have not played a COMPLETE GAME yet in 5 games (against less than stellar opponents) - We are AMASSING injuries at a rate that would make a Vietnam commanding officer blush. - we seem to be directionless at times, which after 4 seasons, should not be the case with MM anymore. We have burned through 2 OCs, 3 DCs, however many ST and strength and conditioning coaches. The only constant left is TT/ MM, and we STILL HAVE the same issues. We draft for depth, yet always have seemingly no depth past our starter. We focus on the Oline, and yet the oline is a MAJOR issue. We focus on the running game, yet cannot run.We hire a BLITZING genius (2 of them really when including Greene) yet when we need to blitz we drop in zone. there are SO MANY EXAMPLES past these I could give, but thats a whole new thread. - ST play is still an issue!?! How, after this long can we STILL BE LOSING GAMES based off of field position and turnovers?!?!? - Penalties at the WORST times. offensive holding on plays resulting in first downs. PI (or other auto 1st downs) always seemingly coming on 3rd down stops. -poor clock management... over and over again. Wasting timeouts we need, not using timeouts when we should (who else saw Jordy score a TD that we DIDNT challenge. settled for a FG.) Then, with 7 seconds in the 1st half left, from the 20, we try to score (or I assume since we decided to go 5 wide 3 straight plays, one almost turning into a TO) makes zero sense. -lack of goal line package COMPLETELY this year. Good thing we got a running game, cause it COMPLETELY negates us cutting Havner loose... OH WAIT.... Well at least we have Grant to pound it in... OH WAIT... (not that he was a pounder when we needed him anyway) Ohh well, at least Rodgers can lob it up to Finley.... OOOpps. and the biggest, yet most overlooked... - We cannot closeout bad opponents, we cannot beat good opponents, either with any real consistency, and when was the last time we went down the field and won a game? Last time I remember was before the NFC championship game. All I see now is us losing games we should have won, barely winning games by playing down to our opponent, or letting an inferior opponent who at one point was down by multiple TDs roar right back into it. I dont blame our players, That rests solidly on the coaching. MM is just not the answer. He never was. TT is not the answer. He WAS at first. He got us out of cap hell with the frugality he maintains. Now it just doesnt make sense. He seems gun shy and self doubting of pulling the trigger. I dont claim to know what the answer is, but we have now seen 2 out of 4 seasons seemingly wasted due to an inability to adjust to the current circumstances our team finds itself in. We are, after the last 2 weeks, now looking at 3 out of 5. What moves have we made to replace what is now: out for the year: Nick Barnett-STARTER Morgan Burnett-STARTER Ryan Grant-STARTER Will Blackman-STARTER (potential) Allen Barbre- STARTER (potential) Quinn Porter Josh Bell Justin Harrell- supposed STARTER Johnny Jolly- STARTER ( not injury) PUP Al Harris- STARTER James Starks- supposed future feature back Atari Bigby- STARTER and now the newest rash of injuries, NOT MINOR aches and PAINS, but true injuries: Jermichael Finley- 2-6 weeks STARTER Donald Lee- 2-4 weeks Derrick Martin-2-4 weeks Ryan Pickett- 0-2 weeks STARTER Clay Matthews 0-2 weeks STARTER Mark Tauscher- 1-3 weeks STARTER Brandon Chillar- 1-3 weeks STARTER and last but not least... Aaron Rodgers, 0-2 weeks. STARTER 15 out of a potential 28 starters (accounting for variations in OL, DL, DBs, and LBs) 15!!!! Saying the sky is not falling when that many starters are hurt is like saying "this is just turbulence" when your plane is short one wing and you are staring outside without looking out a window. At this point it just sounds like we are trying to convince ourselves. I am not saying we cannot overcome, just that we are going to need some MASSIVE adjustments. The only problem is that over the last 5 years, the whole "adjusting" thing.... not been what we are so good at. IN ANY ASPECT of this sport. Sorry [/QUOTE]
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