1. Welcome to Green Bay Packers NFL Football Forum & Community!
    Packer Forum is one of the largest online communities for the Green Bay Packers.

    You are currently viewing our community forums as a guest user.

    Sign Up or

    Having an account grants you additional privileges, such as creating and participating in discussions. Furthermore, we hide most of the ads once you register as a member!
  2. Announcement is LIVE: Read the Forum Post

Favre says Rodgers will "shatter everything I ever did"

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by ivo610, Jun 14, 2013.

  1. ivo610

    ivo610 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2010
    Messages:
    16,168
    Ratings:
    +4,098
    "First of all, the money was too good," the record-setting quarterback told NFL Network analyst and former Atlanta Falcons teammate Deion Sanders, who immediately responded: "Thank you for being honest, I like that."
     
  2. ivo610

    ivo610 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2010
    Messages:
    16,168
    Ratings:
    +4,098
    "I hate to say it's about money. But I felt the money was a lot -- great," reiterated Favre.

    In case he wasn't clear the first time
     
  3. PackFanNChiTown

    PackFanNChiTown Bear Fan's Bane

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2008
    Messages:
    731
    Ratings:
    +364
    Yes. The message is I said my peace in the other thread in regard to that particular topic and I'm not willing to let Herr Mayo suck me back into the conversation b/c doing so is beating the proverbial dead horse. ;)
     
  4. buggybill2003

    buggybill2003 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    Joined:
    May 22, 2012
    Messages:
    3,602
    Ratings:
    +2,075
    thank you :whistling:
     
    • Like Like x 1
  5. PackFanNChiTown

    PackFanNChiTown Bear Fan's Bane

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2008
    Messages:
    731
    Ratings:
    +364
    The Favre convinced his supporters he did not want to come back. This was not the case. The Favre was simply awaiting the arrival of the three supplicants. They paid the necessary and due homage to The Favre and The Favre was pleased.

    Ted Thompson did not pay such homage in 2008, so The Favre was displeased.

    Ego stroked: check
    Coffers filled: check
    Training camp skipped: check
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  6. jaybadger82

    jaybadger82 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2012
    Messages:
    810
    Ratings:
    +387
    Interesting thought- I just have a hard time thinking anyone signs Favre to a $20 million marketing deal at this point.

    What can Favre possibly market that will yield enough additional revenue to justify that kind of outlay in 2013? -Maybe I should talk to the folks over at Wrangler, but you can call me skeptical at this point. I doubt Sketchers paid that kind of money for Montana and Joe hasn't damaged his image like Favre has these past several years or so. Did the Montana ads deliver real value to Sketchers by pushing enough additional shoe sales to cover the expenditure? -Without being able to look at the books, again I'm skeptical...

    It does seem like one could come up with some pretty funny Super Bowl ads involving Brett but I'm not sure whether the guy is willing to be self-deprecating, which seems like the only way to make a decent ad with him. (Maybe a product like Snickers or Doritos, but it won't be funny unless they're poking some fun at Bert.)

    It's more like, how many people are lining up to pay Favre for an endorsement?
     
  7. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2005
    Messages:
    16,690
    Ratings:
    +2,977
    Players do appearances for the team....Packers will have the rights to his name and number..

    Really can't believe you didnt know about this before..

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3536995

     
  8. jaybadger82

    jaybadger82 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2012
    Messages:
    810
    Ratings:
    +387
    Sure- but that was five years ago. With everything that's happened since then, do you think such a deal carries the same value today? -If you believe so, I think you're nuts.

    There just isn't the same market for Favre-related merchandise today...
     
  9. buggybill2003

    buggybill2003 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    Joined:
    May 22, 2012
    Messages:
    3,602
    Ratings:
    +2,075
     
  10. ivo610

    ivo610 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2010
    Messages:
    16,168
    Ratings:
    +4,098
    Thus the effort to get back in good graces...
     
  11. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2005
    Messages:
    16,690
    Ratings:
    +2,977
    Then I am nutts..So when he goes to Canton we will see no increase of fans
     
  12. jaybadger82

    jaybadger82 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2012
    Messages:
    810
    Ratings:
    +387
    Maybe. I guess I'm just not convinced that getting back in the Packers' good graces fundamentally rehabilitates Favre's brand. Nationally, the guy is as widely remembered for waffling over retirement and texting photos of his junk to massage therapists as he is for his exploits on the field. Companies will find better representatives for their products.

    There may be a rise in interest in Favre at the point he goes to Canton- I just think it's pretty short-lived and the revenue opportunities are limited.

    The Packers won't roll out anything approaching the marketing blitz contemplated back in 2008 (per your link above). That was a different time: a lot has happened to sour fans on #4 since then and the public's interest in athletes that no longer play tends to wane. I think you're overrating the revenue opportunity here but I guess we'll see how it shakes out.
     
  13. PackFanNChiTown

    PackFanNChiTown Bear Fan's Bane

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2008
    Messages:
    731
    Ratings:
    +364
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • Informative Informative x 1
  14. 13 Times Champs

    13 Times Champs Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2011
    Messages:
    3,924
    Ratings:
    +1,379
  15. PackerFlatLander

    PackerFlatLander Cheesehead

    Joined:
    May 27, 2013
    Messages:
    481
    Ratings:
    +294
    I think it's a real iffy scenario, as far as how many cheers there would be for him, as opposed to how many boos. We've seen this before, in other sports. Chris Chelios was an idolized, revered player for the Chicago Blackhawks for years. Then, he played for the rival Red Wings. The Blackhawks brought him back too soon, because when they brought him out to give him a tribute, he pretty much got booed off the ice. It wasn't pretty.
     
  16. jaybadger82

    jaybadger82 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2012
    Messages:
    810
    Ratings:
    +387
    Nice find- I don't know how myself and the other members of the Brett Favre Hero Worship Fan Club (BFHWFC) forgot that one... ;)
     
    • Like Like x 1
  17. ivo610

    ivo610 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2010
    Messages:
    16,168
    Ratings:
    +4,098
    If its speculated from 40 mil to 100 mil it really means no one has a clue.

    Those sites just use limited public info to put together a number. They have no idea.

    Again, money doesn't just motivate poor people, it motivates rich people too. So either way, his motivation of money should not be dismissed by his fans
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Disagree Disagree x 1
  18. jaybadger82

    jaybadger82 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2012
    Messages:
    810
    Ratings:
    +387
    • Agree Agree x 1
  19. ivo610

    ivo610 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2010
    Messages:
    16,168
    Ratings:
    +4,098
    What does that link have to do with Brett's motivation? I mean really ... We have already established he is motivated by money.
     
  20. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2005
    Messages:
    16,690
    Ratings:
    +2,977

    We will wait and see :)
     
  21. jaybadger82

    jaybadger82 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2012
    Messages:
    810
    Ratings:
    +387
    (1) Marginal utility is a pretty intuitive concept: the value (or "importance") of money to a rich person is less than the value of the same amount of money to a poor person. What does an extra $10 million dollars mean to Bill Gates? -Not much: it won't have a significant impact on what he can afford to buy or his lifestyle. But that same $10 million dollars has a much greater impact on the lifestyle of someone like you or I. With that kind of cash, we're probably looking at new homes, new cars, new tax brackets...

    Similarly, while I might jump at the chance to film a commercial endorsing some crap like Icy Hot in exchange for $500,000, that offer is far less persuasive to someone worth $40+ million. (Keep in mind, you're going to lose a healthy portion of that $500,000 in taxes.)

    This is part of the reason I'm skeptical of the idea that Favre's reconciliation with the Packers is motivated by greed: the sum of money that's out there to be made (and I don't think we're talking about more than few million in revenue- not profits, mind you) has little marginal utility for the parties involved (the Packers organization and Brett Favre).

    (2) If you mean to say we've established that Favre is motivated exclusively by money, I would have to disagree.
     
  22. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2005
    Messages:
    16,690
    Ratings:
    +2,977
    So Brett can't be excited to get millions?? Even if he passes off a good portion to his charities?
     
  23. jaybadger82

    jaybadger82 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2012
    Messages:
    810
    Ratings:
    +387
    Maybe he does. Value is subjective. It just doesn't make a lot of sense for Favre to get excited over an amount of money that is relatively small compared to his net worth.

    I don't stop to pick up pennies in a parking lot for the same reason: not worth the time and effort to me.

    Also, I doubt that Favre stands to make more than $1 million combined in merchandise, appearance, or endorsement deals as a result of his induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. How many recent Hall of Fame inductees have significantly capitalized on the honor? Does reconciling with the Packers organization dramatically affect that amount for Favre?
     
  24. ivo610

    ivo610 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2010
    Messages:
    16,168
    Ratings:
    +4,098
    You disagree with something I didn't say or mean?

    I think I'll leave you to argue with things I didn't say.
     
  25. jaybadger82

    jaybadger82 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2012
    Messages:
    810
    Ratings:
    +387
    Something you didn't say? -Sure. I misunderstood you then.
     

Share This Page