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<blockquote data-quote="Magooch" data-source="post: 992473" data-attributes="member: 17987"><p>Winning a Super Bowl is just tough. Winning multiple in a (relatively) short span is even tougher.</p><p>Favre played 16 seasons in GB and won one.</p><p>Rodgers has played (started) 15 seasons in GB and won one.</p><p>Brees played 15 (I think) seasons in New Orleans and...won one.</p><p>Manning played 14 seasons in Indy and...you guessed it...only won one.</p><p></p><p>It's of course unfortunate that we have had two back-to-back HoF QBs and only managed to win one Super Bowl with each of them, but at the same time a HoF QB winning just one SB in ~15 years is not unprecedented either. In fact the "average" HoF QB only has two championships and I'm sure that is brought up a bit by guys like Brady, Starr, Montana, etc.</p><p></p><p>That said I do think (and I have said it before) that GB seems to often be a little too hesitant to change and/or make tough choices that are sometimes required to push yourself further towards a championship. I have always got the sense that GB as an organization has a more "family-like" feel than many other teams and that's something I appreciate in a lot of ways - and I think many players do, too (IIRC, I was just reading the other day about a player survey that listed GB as one of the most "player friendly" places to play or something like that). But at the same time it is a business and I have to think if we were a bit more cutthroat at times we would probably have a few more titles to show for it.</p><p></p><p>The Patriots for instance have probably been "the standard" (and maybe that is an unfair bar to measure against given they've arguably had the GOAT QB and one of the best coaches ever) and I have to think that guys in recent memory like Drayton, Capers, Mennenga, Barry, etc would not be given nearly as many chances in New England as we've given them. I think our management is really strong in a lot of ways, but at the same time I suspect if we weren't so lenient with underperforming coaches/players then we may well have a couple more titles to show for it. In recent years at least it seems like we are unwilling to make the hard choice to move on from a player/coach until it's too late. Barry is still here, and it took Drayton's special teams unit literally getting us eliminated from the playoffs to finally be the straw that broke the camel's back (Even though it was so obvious to so many for so long that it was a glaring weakness). A guy like Amari probably doesn't get as many chances elsewhere. And so on. But it's hard to say. There's a lot of it that often seems to come down to just plain old bad luck, although I'm sure some would also contend that you make your own luck to an extent...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Magooch, post: 992473, member: 17987"] Winning a Super Bowl is just tough. Winning multiple in a (relatively) short span is even tougher. Favre played 16 seasons in GB and won one. Rodgers has played (started) 15 seasons in GB and won one. Brees played 15 (I think) seasons in New Orleans and...won one. Manning played 14 seasons in Indy and...you guessed it...only won one. It's of course unfortunate that we have had two back-to-back HoF QBs and only managed to win one Super Bowl with each of them, but at the same time a HoF QB winning just one SB in ~15 years is not unprecedented either. In fact the "average" HoF QB only has two championships and I'm sure that is brought up a bit by guys like Brady, Starr, Montana, etc. That said I do think (and I have said it before) that GB seems to often be a little too hesitant to change and/or make tough choices that are sometimes required to push yourself further towards a championship. I have always got the sense that GB as an organization has a more "family-like" feel than many other teams and that's something I appreciate in a lot of ways - and I think many players do, too (IIRC, I was just reading the other day about a player survey that listed GB as one of the most "player friendly" places to play or something like that). But at the same time it is a business and I have to think if we were a bit more cutthroat at times we would probably have a few more titles to show for it. The Patriots for instance have probably been "the standard" (and maybe that is an unfair bar to measure against given they've arguably had the GOAT QB and one of the best coaches ever) and I have to think that guys in recent memory like Drayton, Capers, Mennenga, Barry, etc would not be given nearly as many chances in New England as we've given them. I think our management is really strong in a lot of ways, but at the same time I suspect if we weren't so lenient with underperforming coaches/players then we may well have a couple more titles to show for it. In recent years at least it seems like we are unwilling to make the hard choice to move on from a player/coach until it's too late. Barry is still here, and it took Drayton's special teams unit literally getting us eliminated from the playoffs to finally be the straw that broke the camel's back (Even though it was so obvious to so many for so long that it was a glaring weakness). A guy like Amari probably doesn't get as many chances elsewhere. And so on. But it's hard to say. There's a lot of it that often seems to come down to just plain old bad luck, although I'm sure some would also contend that you make your own luck to an extent... [/QUOTE]
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