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Favre Better than ever!

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by own3dhs, Jan 4, 2010.

  1. Quientus

    Quientus Oenophile

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    There has actually been several occassions where he forced the ball into double coverage and even triple coveraged ... Especially one play against the Packers at Lambeau comes to mind ...

    But as a player he is still the "same", however, I do agree with you that he is taking "less" risks than he did some times while with the Packers ...

    Again, I credit this more to the team he is on currently than anything else really ...

    There are alot of factors weighing in than just those "apparent" ones, but to say that he isn't the same player would be wrong, because he is still able to make those passes (that alot of people predicted he wouldn't be able to).

    Ofcourse he has his faults, and ofcourse he has had some bad games this season, - however, I do think it has more to do with the team he is playing on, than him actually having changed who he is ...

    The huge difference this season as opposed to other seasons is that those times when it was "put on him", for most parts (the loses against Steelers, Arizona and Panthers being the exception), Favre has been able to "perform" ...

    I have no doubt that if the Vikings hadn't gotten a play off berth, most people would be saying the totally opposite ... - That it was "The Favre we knew ..." ...
     
  2. Pat4DaPack

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    This would have to be Brett's best season imo. Nothing against him but he did have some terrific weapons and a fairly easy schedule.
     
  3. dewitt60

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    Not much different than his Super Bowl days in GB. Good line, good D, good running backs. Trent Dilfer has a ring for the same reasons. I could put at least 10 QB's in that spot and maybe go undefeated. No biggie.
     
  4. jeg53

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  5. angryguy77

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    Do you think Rodgers and the Pack have had the same benefit?
     
  6. Jess

    Jess Movement!

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    1. Peyton
    2. Rivers
    3. Favre
    4. Brees
    5. Rodgers

    That's my prediction. If I had a ballot i'd give serious consideration to Rivers. They're riding an 11 game winning streak and he's most of the reason.
     
  7. Hauschild

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    I certainly cannot disagree with your logic on Rivers because he put up very nice numbers and his team won the division and secured a #2 seed.

    However, I am going Favre because he put up better numbers, helped his team secure a #2 seed, and most importantly, I believe, is a more compelling sports story and since the voters are sports journalists, they help their careers by voting a guy in that will create more of a demand for their product. No matter what it is, money always ends up talking.
     
  8. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    that is all that needed to be said, because that is what I am referring to

    I never ONCE said he cant make them..

    I feel ( again this is my opinion) is that he is taking MUCH better care of the football...

    I read a quote by him..Said something to the affect

    Again that isnt word-for-word but I think you get the jest of it?
     
  9. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    But that is NOT most valuable to his team

    If that were the case than HANDS DOWN he wins

    Side note, didnt Peyton get his team a #1 seed?
     
  10. Forget Favre

    Forget Favre Cheesehead

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    Whoever wins the MVP will be forgotten about come Super Bowl time.
    That is, unless the winning MVP plays and wins in the Super Bowl.
     
  11. Forget Favre

    Forget Favre Cheesehead

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    I also don't see how they could give the MVP to a QB who:
    Lost to both SB teams
    And lost to Da Bears, at Soldier, who had a record worse than the Queens.
    Yes Burnt made a valiant effort. But not enough to win the game.
     
  12. Hauschild

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    Don't shoot the messenger - I'm merely pointing out what nobody wants to talk about.

    There really isn't such a thing as an MVP in the NFL, but you go with what ya got and kinda base your guess off history.

    Many are really itchin' to vote Brett MVP and all they ever need are decent numbers and a good record and seeding.

    Manning could win, but nobody likes him because he's so damned grumpy. Just as many don't want to vote for Manning and are also looking for any reasonable excuse not to. I could see Favre-Manning MVP selections, also.

    Take 2007, for instance when Brady won - Favre got the only other vote. This should tell us all something - people love Brett Favre - even the writers.
     
  13. Ted's Zombie Army

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    Once again, you've magically transferred your man-crush on the 4 to a nation of sportswriters who are now "itching" to vote for him. I wouldn't be so certain of their infatuation. I've read many opinions that, while acknowledging his good year, still consider the guy to be one of the leagues prima donnas, and they'd throw their vote in a heartbeat to the "grumpy" Peyton Manning if it means denying Favre any more face time with the camera. Hope you'll be okay if the popularity contest doesn't favor your man.
     
  14. TheHeretic

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    I personally hate the man with a passion but I give credit where credit is due and Favre is having a damn good season. As much as I hate him I have to respect the fact that he is 40+ and still playing kick *** football. Other than that **** him he's a douchebag and as far as MVP is concerned every websight I go to seems to think it's between Bree's and Manning.
     
  15. Hauschild

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    It's just a hunch, so we'll soon find out. :)
     
  16. cantstop12to85

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    Id give it to rivers too, but Peyton most definitely locked it up this year. He's literally a god damn football robot with the ball in his hands and this year he has been so purely on point. Id probably put Brees ahead of Favre just because he's made it happen all year and Favre has been reeling. But who knows, that could just be the bias against Brent
     
  17. cantstop12to85

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    god knows ill be ok with it. im in total agreement, a man crush and the fact that hes doing well and hes 40 years old doesnt justify that he has had a better season than Peyton or even Rivers or Brees. Ill admit he's done a good job but the others have worked their ways to the top with out having suffered defeat from mediocre teams like the bears and panthers while your fighting for a first round buy in the playoffs. Rivers is on one hell of a win streak and Peyton is just to brilliant to resist, Brees is debatable but could, in some circles have had a better season than Favre.
     
  18. angryguy77

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    When are they going to make the vote?
     
  19. longtimefan

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    right before wildcard games maybe Friday?
     
  20. angryguy77

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    thanks.
     
  21. Hauschild

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    I thought I heard the results are announced the morning of January 10th.
     
  22. PackersRS

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    I know the DPoY is the 12th, so the MVP got to be somewhere near then...
     
  23. Hauschild

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    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Last year MVP was announced day before 1st wildcard game
     
  25. longtimefan

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    Wait, your using stats again!!

    context!!!!

    Undefeated season, 5 straight come back wins, Manning pulled out they lose..

    Context!
     

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