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<blockquote data-quote="toolkien" data-source="post: 583581" data-attributes="member: 4637"><p>As a counterpoint, the Packers and Patriots don't compare to the dynasties of the 60's-80's, but that doesn't mean they haven't been the two best teams in the league over the last 2 decades-plus. It simply means that salary cap/free agency has done away with most of the "titanic" teams that once existed that could even produce a dynasty (the team that met and beat the other "titanic" teams and beat them with regularity). The titanic teams were teams that were very good to great on both sides of the ball for the better part of a decade. Only the Patriots fall within that definition since the mid-90's. The Packers, Colts, Broncos, Steelers, 49ers, Eagles don't fall into that definition. Too skewed most of the time, and any balanced and potent time frames didn't last too long.</p><p></p><p>In short, we've had (or should have) readjusted the semantics and accept that dynasties don't exist anymore. Even titanic teams don't exist anymore, for the large part. It's apparently the way the owners and players want it. And the fans. The only team that might qualify as titanic has been the Patriots, and they haven't had to go up against other titanic teams (Eagles, Rams, Giants, and Panthers weren't much of an obstacle course), so if one tries to call them a dynasty in the classic sense, it's cheaply bought.</p><p></p><p>But none of this means that the Packers and Patriots haven't been the two best teams in the league since about 1992. Followed closely by the Colts, Broncos, and Steelers. It's just that the NFL decided to sheer off the top end of the curve that had once existed. Where once there had been the Packers of the 60's, Steelers of the 70's, or 49ers of the 80's, and the titanic teams that went with them, we now have an NFL that tends to peak at teams like the 80's Chargers. It might not be such a bad thing to sheer off the top of the curve, but - unfortunately - the NFL still produces dreadful teams like they used to, so we now have a bottom heavy NFL as far as distribution. </p><p></p><p>We Packer fans should enjoy what we've had in this modern NFL. And, hopefully, those who have gritted their teeth and lamented that the modern Packers never seemed to rank with the dynasties of yore, it's not a failure, but simply a reality of the modern NFL. Enjoy the Packers for what they are relative to the modern reality - one of the best teams going for two decades.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="toolkien, post: 583581, member: 4637"] As a counterpoint, the Packers and Patriots don't compare to the dynasties of the 60's-80's, but that doesn't mean they haven't been the two best teams in the league over the last 2 decades-plus. It simply means that salary cap/free agency has done away with most of the "titanic" teams that once existed that could even produce a dynasty (the team that met and beat the other "titanic" teams and beat them with regularity). The titanic teams were teams that were very good to great on both sides of the ball for the better part of a decade. Only the Patriots fall within that definition since the mid-90's. The Packers, Colts, Broncos, Steelers, 49ers, Eagles don't fall into that definition. Too skewed most of the time, and any balanced and potent time frames didn't last too long. In short, we've had (or should have) readjusted the semantics and accept that dynasties don't exist anymore. Even titanic teams don't exist anymore, for the large part. It's apparently the way the owners and players want it. And the fans. The only team that might qualify as titanic has been the Patriots, and they haven't had to go up against other titanic teams (Eagles, Rams, Giants, and Panthers weren't much of an obstacle course), so if one tries to call them a dynasty in the classic sense, it's cheaply bought. But none of this means that the Packers and Patriots haven't been the two best teams in the league since about 1992. Followed closely by the Colts, Broncos, and Steelers. It's just that the NFL decided to sheer off the top end of the curve that had once existed. Where once there had been the Packers of the 60's, Steelers of the 70's, or 49ers of the 80's, and the titanic teams that went with them, we now have an NFL that tends to peak at teams like the 80's Chargers. It might not be such a bad thing to sheer off the top of the curve, but - unfortunately - the NFL still produces dreadful teams like they used to, so we now have a bottom heavy NFL as far as distribution. We Packer fans should enjoy what we've had in this modern NFL. And, hopefully, those who have gritted their teeth and lamented that the modern Packers never seemed to rank with the dynasties of yore, it's not a failure, but simply a reality of the modern NFL. Enjoy the Packers for what they are relative to the modern reality - one of the best teams going for two decades. [/QUOTE]
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