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<blockquote data-quote="PackersRS" data-source="post: 372253" data-attributes="member: 1429"><p>Wow. Just wow.</p><p></p><p>Michael Irwin never got off the field, in any formation. Only when tired. The same goes for Rice, Sharpe, Moss, Owens...</p><p></p><p>In jumbo personel (any variation that only has 1 WR) Nelson is the WR. Not Jennings.</p><p></p><p>Do you have any idea what consitutes starters? The first formation used in the game. Not the player that plays the most snaps at a position.</p><p></p><p>If by any chance the Packers start the game in the opposite 5 yard line and go jumbo personel, that would make Nelson the starter of that game. Not Jennings. Not Driver.</p><p></p><p>Is it an "unusual" formation as you call it? It's certainly less used than the posse personel. But the posse personel still only consitutes 40% or so of the formations used in a game. In fact, by your definition, Nelson IS a starter, as the most used formation is the posse.</p><p></p><p>But in today's NFL, there are no starters (outside of the OL and the QB, and a RB in some teams). In the past, even in the 90's, teams always lined up with 2 starting WRs, and used multiple receiver sets only occasionally.</p><p></p><p>Nowadays, the multiplicity of formations don't allow the technical term of "starter" to be used precisely. In fact, the Packers are the team that most often employs different personel groupings in the entire league: <a href="http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/43194894/ns/sports-nfl/" target="_blank">Tricky offenses could be casualties of lockout - NFL- NBC Sports</a> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I only quoted part of the article, so read the rest if you're interested in understanding something about formations.</p><p></p><p>So, BECAUSE the Packers use a multitude of formations (and not only 2 and 3 wrs like you think they do), one can only attribute the definition of a starter by each and every formation.</p><p></p><p>So... Yes, I do know what the **** I'm talking about. And, yes, I do watch the Packers.</p><p></p><p>And the jumbo formation may or may not have someone lined up at the slot. What it necessarily means is that there's no more than one player lined up far from the OL. He may be in the slot (y), he may be in the flanker (z) or as a split end (x). Heck, it may even mean that there's no player lined up far from the OL, as is the case in a T formation we used against the Eagles, with Starks Kuhn and Hall in the backfield, and Crabtree (IIRC) lined up as a typical TE...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PackersRS, post: 372253, member: 1429"] Wow. Just wow. Michael Irwin never got off the field, in any formation. Only when tired. The same goes for Rice, Sharpe, Moss, Owens... In jumbo personel (any variation that only has 1 WR) Nelson is the WR. Not Jennings. Do you have any idea what consitutes starters? The first formation used in the game. Not the player that plays the most snaps at a position. If by any chance the Packers start the game in the opposite 5 yard line and go jumbo personel, that would make Nelson the starter of that game. Not Jennings. Not Driver. Is it an "unusual" formation as you call it? It's certainly less used than the posse personel. But the posse personel still only consitutes 40% or so of the formations used in a game. In fact, by your definition, Nelson IS a starter, as the most used formation is the posse. But in today's NFL, there are no starters (outside of the OL and the QB, and a RB in some teams). In the past, even in the 90's, teams always lined up with 2 starting WRs, and used multiple receiver sets only occasionally. Nowadays, the multiplicity of formations don't allow the technical term of "starter" to be used precisely. In fact, the Packers are the team that most often employs different personel groupings in the entire league: [url=http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/43194894/ns/sports-nfl/]Tricky offenses could be casualties of lockout - NFL- NBC Sports[/url] I only quoted part of the article, so read the rest if you're interested in understanding something about formations. So, BECAUSE the Packers use a multitude of formations (and not only 2 and 3 wrs like you think they do), one can only attribute the definition of a starter by each and every formation. So... Yes, I do know what the **** I'm talking about. And, yes, I do watch the Packers. And the jumbo formation may or may not have someone lined up at the slot. What it necessarily means is that there's no more than one player lined up far from the OL. He may be in the slot (y), he may be in the flanker (z) or as a split end (x). Heck, it may even mean that there's no player lined up far from the OL, as is the case in a T formation we used against the Eagles, with Starks Kuhn and Hall in the backfield, and Crabtree (IIRC) lined up as a typical TE... [/QUOTE]
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