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Draft "Risers"

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by Greg C., Apr 1, 2006.

  1. Greg C.

    Greg C. Cheesehead

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    From Sports Illusrated's web site, here are some "risers" in this year's draft. Which ones sound good for the Packers?

    1. Joe Klopfenstein, TE, Colorado: Scouts are comparing the Colorado tight end to Todd Heap more and more each day. What really excites them is the way this pass-catching specialist has improved his blocking. Klopfenstein is poised to break into the early part of the second round.

    2. Chad Jackson, WR, Florida: After putting on a clinic at the combine, Jackson has blown people away with interviews in recent weeks and wrestled away the top spot at wide receiver from Ohio State's Santonio Holmes.

    3. Charles Spencer, G, Pittsburgh: The big-bodied blocker has caught the attention of several teams, including the Cowboys. In Spencer, teams see an athletic blocker with unlimited upside who can be used at tackle or guard.

    4. Kamerion Wimbley, DE, Florida State: Teams compare Wimbley to a bigger version of John Abraham. A fringe first-round choice in early January, Wimbley could jump into the draft's first 15 selections.

    5. Greg Jennings, WR, Western Michigan: The ultra-productive wideout has received a lot of attention recently. Teams that employ the West Coast offense love his ability to pick up yards after the catch, while conventional coaches admire his reliability. In a weak receiver draft, Jennings is moving toward the second round.

    6. Joe Toledo, OT, Washington: Teams are becoming more enamored with the former tight end who moved to tackle last season. At 330 pounds, Toledo was hampered with a high ankle sprain last season. Scouts don't want to let him slip through the cracks as they did his college teammate Khalif Barnes last year.

    7. Philip Alexander, DE, Duke: An athletic pass rusher whose college career was beset by injury, Alexander recently weighed in at 274 pounds and ran a 4.80 40. He completed 25 reps on the bench and is getting late-round consideration as a 3-4 end.

    8. Brandon Guillory, OLB, Louisiana-Monroe: A 'tweener who projects to rush linebacker in a 3-4 alignment, Guillory had a sensational workout in front of scouts. Weighing near 255 pounds, he clocked a 4.55 in his 40 and touched the wall at 37 inches in the vertical jump. He is another player getting late-round consideration.

    9. Justin Holland, QB, Colorado State: After a terrific senior season, the Rams quarterback felt snubbed after not receiving an invite to the combine. Holland threw the ball well during Colorado State's pro day, showing a strong arm and solid accuracy.

    10. Quinton Ganther, RB, Utah: The productive back has impressed scouts with his poise and maturity in recent interviews. Considered a middle-round pick, he could make a run toward the first day.

    My own two cents: The most intriguing one is that guard, #3, unless someone takes him in the first round. (I have no idea where he's projected.) Although I'm against drafting a TE in the first round (Bubba is earning top dollar at that position), maybe that TE from Colorado (#1 on this list) would be worth a second round pick. Also, that receiver from Western Michigan could be a good pick if he falls to the third round. Unfortunately #'s 7 and 8 are projected as outside linebackers in a 3-4 alignment, so they don't look like they would fit into the Packers' scheme. The DE at #4 does not look likely to fall to the second round.

    I don't know much about the college talent out there, and would like to hear from somebody who does.
     
  2. chibiabos

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    :) Lot's of possible talent in that list and most will not be on the top of everyon'e board. That should give T.T. plenty of opportunity to pick and choose, hopefully wisely. GB could well come out of this draft with perhaps as many as three impact players. I have no problem with a another TE; someone with a bit of speed and hands. That would certainly open up the possibilities of a three TE offensive alignment. The defenses would rarely know whether it was run or pass and would have to make serious adjustments.
     
  3. porky88

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    Charles Spencer is nice. I think he could go late round 1 to Seattle. He has a ton of upside and for his size is very athletic. IF we draft him in round 2 he'd have to slim down for the zone scheme. I think he weighs more than Will Whittaker but he can run.
     
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    :) Out of the list that Greg posted above; who do you think the Pack has the best chance of getting in the draft without trading up or down? I'm going to check out the draft order and scout listing for players and se if I can come up with a good possible.
     
  5. Toronto_Cheesehead

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    I don't think he'd fit our scheme anyways. The only reason I think he's rose so high is because the Browns are looking at him to play OLB in their 34.
     
  6. Greg C.

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    That means that there are three players on this list who are projected as outside LB's in a 3-4 scheme, and no players who would fit in at DE or OLB in a 4-3. But at least if we get Williams or Hawk in the first round, we will fill one of those needs, and hopefully there will be some other good prospects in later rounds.
     
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    This guy looks a good option for the new zone scheme we are introducing this year. Athletic, strong and intelligent.
     
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    Charles Spencer
    Height: 6-4 3/4 | Weight: 352 | 40-Time: 5.28

    Official Bio

    Strengths:
    Has great size and a large frame...Is an excellent athlete...Moves well and has good feet for a man of his dimensions...Is extremely strong and powerful...An outstanding run blocker...Shows flashes of dominance at times...Versatile with experience at both left guard and left tackle...Has a defensive players attitude and mindset...A team leader and hard worker...Still improving and has upside.

    Weaknesses:
    Needs to work on his technique and master the nuances of a single position...Did not have a great senior season when he was moved to tackle and struggled with speed rushers...Dealt with knee and shoulder injuries early in his career...Raw and needs development since he doesn't have a lot of experience on offense.

    Notes:
    Played defensive tackle his first two seasons at Pitt...Moved to the offensive side of the ball as a junior and really took to it...Could project to either guard or right tackle at the next level...Has all the tools you look for and a lot of potential.




    Spencer has only played one season at guard, so he may take a little time. He is an intriguing prospect though.
     
  9. chibiabos

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    :) OK! Assuming the GB somehow gets either Hawk or Williams in the first round; there are the following players on my listing for a 2nd round choice: GB could probably get one of these guys . OT Marcus McNeil (not a need), CB J. Joseph (?), RB J. Addai(not a need), WR S. Moss (too small), OG Max JeanGilles, (could use), CB A. Cromarti (Definite possibility), CB A. Zemaitis (good size), & TE J.Klopfenstein. Of those I think I'd go with Klopfenstein. Any comments?
     
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    8) Greg Spencer has moved to # 64 on my list which could mean he could go in the second round or the top of the third. Perhaps a bit on the heavy side for the new scheme, but a definite possibility for GB.
     
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    Cromartie would be nice.. in round 2 but he'll likely be gone..

    Jean-Giles would be a horrible pick. He doesn't fit the zone scheme.
     
  12. CaliforniaCheez

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    There is a lot of talent but finding the right guy for the team's scheme is important. There is a lot of talent in the 2nd and 3rd rounds but for the right scheme.

    Don't let some expert convince you the Packers picked a guy like Nick Collins too early. Don't scoff at some picks(unless it is the Vikings dumb enough to take Vince "the bust" Wonderlic in the first round)

    Each team has its board tailored to their team.
     

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