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Draft picks. Who and why???

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by packer98, Dec 23, 2008.

  1. packer98

    packer98 Cheesehead

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    I'd say as high as we draft we take a stud (unlike Harrell). Mays, Cushing, Maualug, Orakpo or Curry if possible in no particular order.
     
  2. c_mac

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    We definitely need a good pass rusher and some o-line help. I'd love to see us use our first round pick on a stud DE or DT and our second round pick on an offensive guard. After the second then go with the best player available maybe if we can find a diamond in the rough LB.
     
  3. Veretax

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    I have a funny feeling we may be taking a corner or safety in the draft. Can't explain it thought
     
  4. Toronto_Cheesehead

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    I think we need to go for a defensive linemen with the first pick. It was a glaring weakness this year, and the best DT or DE should be taken with the pick.

    However, this is a deep year for OTs (if most of the top underclassmen declare), and Clifton is getting older. So maybe we go LT with the top pick.
     
  5. NelsonsLongCatch

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    The draft all depends on who GB can sign during free-agency.

    The top defensive linemen are: Albert Haynesworth, Julius Peppers, Gabe Watson, Marcus Tubbs, and Tank Johnson.
    The top linebackers are: LeRoy Hill, James Farrior, Angelo Crowell, Mike Peterson, and Jonathan Vilma.

    By losing to the Bears, the Packers secured a top-10 pick. If they sign a DE, they should draft a DT. If they sign a DT, they should draft a DE. The wild card in all of this is the quality of the linebackers who are coming out. Rey Maualag and James Lauranitis are two great LB's that could both start instantly for GB.

    No matter what, they need a pass rusher opposite Kampman and a linebacker who can cover a TE and tackle.
     
  6. Rodgersfan1985

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    I think as far as the LB position we have the talent as long as bishop can work on covering the pass this offseason. I am all for just throwin our money and our picks in thesomehow Dline If we can get some mean boys on that front four to help kampan and jenkins, (I am really hoping we get peppers some how) and maybe get one of those mean dudes from ALA or OKL. I think once that happens, the pack are goona be a team to be reckoned with year in and year out. cause lets face it, the offense is there (besides a little problem on the Oline,which will heal in time) the defense is two good dlineman away from bein a damn good defense. GO PACK GO
     
  7. NelsonsLongCatch

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    Agreed... this team isn't the Lions. They are two defensive linemen, a linebacker, and an offensive guard away from being very good for a very long time.
     
  8. ohiopacker

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    Gotta hope the Jets make the playoffs = a 2nd rd pick for the Pack( Favre trade ) :sweating: .
     
  9. dansz15

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    Cushing will go too high, and might be overrated. Curry will be top 3.... I would look for Sintim from VA.

    But unless there are not DE's, I wouldn't go anything but trenches.

    At Guard, Andy Levitre looks solid. He could be a possible 2nd round pick.

    for DE, I want Michael Johnson. I think he is a monster, from GT. All the one's I mentioned can be obtained witht he 1st round pick. Only knock is a production question, but has incredible measures, and might be overrated. Safe pick is Orakpo or maybe even Jackson.

    I would go maybe Johnson first, Levitre will be in the second round possibly unless he has a good/bad combine. Also, combine pending, I think Sintim will be pretty solid.

    Larry English, DE from Northern Illinois might be worth a look.

    I would rather see FA aquisitions though.

    EDIT: This draft is incredibly deep in the trenches, and in LB. Very rich in many respects. With 3 picks in the first two rounds, GB can get starting guard, DE, and LB.
     
  10. NelsonsLongCatch

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    How about that DE from Penn State? I forget his name, but he is rated pretty high on all draft boards. As long as the guy could rush the passer I'm all for him.
     
  11. dansz15

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    You may be thinking #48, Maurice Evans. He is an all around stud, but is a junior. In my opinion he stays at state for another season to get higher draft status around the likings of Tamba Hali a few years ago. He does have very good potential, but will prolly stay in college for another big season to make for a bigger paycheck.
     
  12. NelsonsLongCatch

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    I think that Michael Johnson from Georgia Tech is the ONLY pick for Green Bay. Before the Chicago game, Aaron Kampman was the ONLY GB defensive linemen with more than ONE sack. He needs help and the Packers need a pass rush.

    Redeem yourself TT!!
     
  13. Toronto_Cheesehead

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    Everette Brown out of FSU is another DE prospect that we should look at. He's an underclassmen, but if he declares he could be another solution to our pass rush problems. Finding a pass rushing interior linemen in the 2nd or 3rd round would help too.
     
  14. packer98

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    Brown is as good as gone. Big FSU fan and everything is pointing that he is gone. He will be there at 10 for us, but would take Johnson if he was there. also love the LB's and safties from USC.
     
  15. Toronto_Cheesehead

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    I agree. I think Johnson has way more upside, even if he'll only be a pass rushing specialist as a rookie.

    The USC kids are really tempting, but I don't want this team to become the Lions or Bengals where we only focus on skill positions and don't take care of the lines. It doesn't matter how talented the linebackers are if the front four can't eat up blockers, and the DBs can have all the talent in the world but will still get beat if there's no pass rush.
     
  16. NelsonsLongCatch

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    The lines control the game. Green Bay needs to upgrade both. Brown is a great player. I have no problem with him or Johnson coming to our team.
     
  17. dansz15

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    The DE's in this draft though are very deep. Since the number 9 pick was secured, Reg Maualuga (SP) from USC is a friggen monster who I think is a little like Merriman. Add him with Barnett and a healthy AJ, and you got yourself one heck of a LB core.

    The only thing after that is you wanna draft a OT who is ready to play not a project like Sitton. Problem is I am really torn between Johnson and Maualuga. I guess draft day will tell.

    But I fully expect Thompson to trade this pick for a late 1st round and 2nd round picks, and get somoene who will not be able to start for a few years. Time is now, TT you cannot rebuild forever. I hope he reads this lol.
     
  18. LindyChop

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    Wrong, wrong, wrong! Name the last great DE or D-lineman for that matter from FSU. Andre Wadsworth....nope. Alphonso Careker (sp?)...nope..., Jamal Reynolds.....nope. Broderick Bunkley has played well but not a stud. 2 simple rules regarding the draft people.....

    1) Never draft a Penn St. running back (Carter, Enis, etc.)
    2) Never draft an FSU defensive lineman
     
  19. LindyChop

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    We need a Left Tackle now. I like Stanchek from WV. Good size, very nimble, 40+ games played in college....possibly can get in the 2nd round.
     
  20. Bluma12

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    If we want to win in the futer the packers need to do some big things this off season.

    1.) Either fire our o-line or make them work out. They all need to lose about 30 pounds. there is no reason for them to be sporting fat rolls. I think rodgers did great and could have done better if the o-line could keep up with the rush.

    2.) Our Draft picks need to focus on getting the Next Gilbert Brown to the D-line. Hawk and Barnett need someone on the line who gets double team frequently not some of the time. The name gilbert brown may make my first statement confusing to some but remember this guy could out run the qb and and push a doubleteam backwards.

    3.) What ever playbook we were using this year needs to go straight to the garbage bin. Or find a new play caller. Our offense is to easy to read. That being said, someone in the off season needs to work with Rodgers on audibleing and being the playmaker of the team. He is suppose to see and notice the blitz and change a recievers rout or the runners direction.
     
  21. PackOne

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    No more pass rushing specialists.
     
  22. NelsonsLongCatch

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    If you look at early draft boards, the following players are rated in the top-12 and can all fit with Green Bay...

    1) Andre Smith - OT - Alabama
    3) Aaron Curry - OLB - Wake Forest
    6) Aaron Maybin - DE - Penn State
    9) Everett Brown - DE - Florida State
    10) Eugene Monroe - OT - Virginia
    11) Rey Maualuga - ILB - USC
    12) Brian Orakpo - DE - Texas

    Depending on free-agency, any of these players would immediately start on Green Bay.
     
  23. NelsonsLongCatch

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    I think we've seen the last of Tony Moll as a Green Bay Packer. Daryn Colledge will move to RT and Chad Clifton will keep his spot at LT. TT should definately invest a 2nd or 3rd round pick on an offensive tackle who actually played offensive tackle in college and is a stud.
     
  24. packers140

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    We would have to worry about our Dline if TT wouldnt of traded Cory Williams away. We went from reall deep to average and then Cullin Jenkins gets hurt and then KGB is gone...........now we are below average....... But for our draft pick we definately need to get Defensive Lineman.
     
  25. PackAttackUK

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    If we we don't pick up a DE in free agency, then I'd use the #9 pick on Brian Orakpo from Texas, if he was stillavailable of course.

    I think Orakpo will fit the D-Line nicely, and will cause as many problems as Kamps will from the other side. He can definitley find his way to the QB with his speed and power, and he's also pretty good at bringing down the RB behind the line too.

    That's my 2 pence worth anyway :)
     

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