Draft busts

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SportsNutz All Draft Busts Team

First Team

QB Ryan Leaf (2) Washington State-San Diego Chargers-1998
RB Blair Thomas (2) Penn State-New York Jets-1990
WR Desmond Howard(4) Michigan-Washington Redskins-1992
TE Ricky Dudley(9) Ohio State-Houston Oilers-1996
OT Tony Mandarich(2) Michigan State-Green Bay Packers-1989
OG Eugene Chung(13) Virginia Tech-New England Patriots-1992
DE Aundray Bruce(1) Auburn-Atlanta Falcons-1988
DT Steve Emtman(1) Washington-Indianapolis Colts-1992
LB Brian Bosworth(2) Oklahoma-Seattle Seahawks-1987
CB Bruce Pickens(3) Nebraska-Atlanta Falcons-1991
S Patrick Bates (12) Texas A&M-Los Angeles Raiders-1993

Second Team

QB Heath Schuler (3) Tennessee-Washington Redskins-1994
RB Lawrence Philips (6) Nebraska-St. Louis Rams-1995
WR Michael Westbrook (4) Colorado-Washington Redskins-1995
TE David LaFluer(22) LSU-Dallas Cowboys-1997
OT Antoine Davis(8) Tennessee-Philadelphia Eagles-1991
OG Brian Jozwiak(7) West Virginia-Kansas City Chiefs-1986
DE Andre Wadsworth(3) Florida State-Arizona Cardinals-1998
DT Dimitrius Underwood(29) Michigan State-MinnesotaVikings-1999
LB Percy Snow(13) Michigan State-Kansas City Chiefs-1990
CB Michael Booker(11) Nebraska-Atlanta Flacons-1997
S Shaun Williams(24) UCLA-New York Giants-1998
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Jamaal Reynolds can thank Aundray Bruce and Andre Wadsworth for not making it. But it shows the Pack are not the only ones to have a high pick(Mandarich) bust. Man I hope we hit the jackpot this year.

 

[PackerSacker54]

SportsNutz All Draft Busts Team

First Team

QB Ryan Leaf (2) Washington State-San Diego Chargers-1998
RB Blair Thomas (2) Penn State-New York Jets-1990
WR Desmond Howard(4) Michigan-Washington Redskins-1992
TE Ricky Dudley(9) Ohio State-Houston Oilers-1996
OT Tony Mandarich(2) Michigan State-Green Bay Packers-1989
OG Eugene Chung(13) Virginia Tech-New England Patriots-1992
DE Aundray Bruce(1) Auburn-Atlanta Falcons-1988
DT Steve Emtman(1) Washington-Indianapolis Colts-1992
LB Brian Bosworth(2) Oklahoma-Seattle Seahawks-1987
CB Bruce Pickens(3) Nebraska-Atlanta Falcons-1991
S Patrick Bates (12) Texas A&M-Los Angeles Raiders-1993

Second Team

QB Heath Schuler (3) Tennessee-Washington Redskins-1994
RB Lawrence Philips (6) Nebraska-St. Louis Rams-1995
WR Michael Westbrook (4) Colorado-Washington Redskins-1995
TE David LaFluer(22) LSU-Dallas Cowboys-1997
OT Antoine Davis(8) Tennessee-Philadelphia Eagles-1991
OG Brian Jozwiak(7) West Virginia-Kansas City Chiefs-1986
DE Andre Wadsworth(3) Florida State-Arizona Cardinals-1998
DT Dimitrius Underwood(29) Michigan State-MinnesotaVikings-1999
LB Percy Snow(13) Michigan State-Kansas City Chiefs-1990
CB Michael Booker(11) Nebraska-Atlanta Flacons-1997
S Shaun Williams(24) UCLA-New York Giants-1998
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Jamaal Reynolds can thank Aundray Bruce and Andre Wadsworth for not making it. But it shows the Pack are not the only ones to have a high pick(Mandarich) bust. Man I hope we hit the jackpot this year.

Where's Rashaan Salaam, Curtis Enis and Cade McNown,(possibly Cedric Benson but I'm crossing my fingers)? Didn't Desmond Howard help win a Superbowl for the Packers.

 

[Hammer]

Howard was MVP in the SB.
Hammer

 

[digsthepack]

But a huge bust at WR, which is what he was drafted as.

 

[CaliforniaCheez]

Every team has had its first round bust. The more famous ones are taken in the top 10 of their draft class. The average draft choice is really 50-50 or a coin flip if he makes it or not. The first round guys are better with about 2 of 3 having success. The seventh round maybe 25 % have long successful careers.

So if one considers drafting a 50% success rate then it is better to have more picks. Ron Wolf could make up for busts by having success later.
Sherman lost picks to move up and those fewer picks were still 50-50.

 

[big3]

I can't believe you don't have Todd Marinavich as one of the 2 qb's.

 

[Hammer]

I can't believe you don't have Todd Marinavich as one of the 2 qb's.

Dan McGwire was drafted ahead of Favre in 91 I think.
Hammer
Edit: McGwire and Marinovich were drafted ahead of Favre.

 

[HatestheEagles084]

I can't believe you don't have Todd Marinavich as one of the 2 qb's.

I stand by Heath Shuler...Marinovich was a second round pick, and part of his problems can be blamed on the pressure placed on him by his dad from birth. Shuler was drafted ahead of Dilfer who won a super bowl--and also got beaten out by a sixth round pick, Gus Ferotte, before the end of the rookie season

 

[Hammer]

I can't believe you don't have Todd Marinavich as one of the 2 qb's.

I stand by Heath Shuler...Marinovich was a second round pick, and part of his problems can be blamed on the pressure placed on him by his dad from birth. Shuler was drafted ahead of Dilfer who won a super bowl--and also got beaten out by a sixth round pick, Gus Ferotte, before the end of the rookie season

Marinovich was a 1st.
Hammer

 

[Zero2Cool]

Desmond Howard may not have excelled as a WR, but he was far from a bust.

 

[PackerSacker54]

Desmond Howard may not have excelled as a WR, but he was far from a bust.

I agree. IMO, the fact that he was a Superbowl MVP and helped Green Bay achieve that coveted Lombardi trophy kind of cancels out the "Bust" label. He's got a Heisman trophy and an SB ring and the SB MVP title, hardly a bust. :wink:

 

[PackerSacker54]

I can't believe you don't have Todd Marinavich as one of the 2 qb's.

I stand by Heath Shuler...Marinovich was a second round pick, and part of his problems can be blamed on the pressure placed on him by his dad from birth. Shuler was drafted ahead of Dilfer who won a super bowl--and also got beaten out by a sixth round pick, Gus Ferotte, before the end of the rookie season

Todd had a very stern and rough upbringing, the guy's father wouldn't even let him eat fast food when he was a kid(trying to mold him into a NFL QB from birth). I don't eat much fast food now that I'm older and wiser, but when you're a kid growing up in the U.S.A. is their anything better than Mc'Donalds, Jack in the Box, Burger King, Taco Bell, AandW etc. I think it was in 2004 or 2005 I read that he was caught shooting up with like Heroin or **** in a bathroom at a beach in California. That was very sad to hear what he had become.

 

[Heatherthepackgirl]

I liked Desmond Howard, he sure did help us win the Superbowl that year...

 

[Zero2Cool]

Desmond Howard may not have excelled as a WR, but he was far from a bust.

I agree. IMO, the fact that he was a Superbowl MVP and helped Green Bay achieve that coveted Lombardi trophy kind of cancels out the "Bust" label. He's got a Heisman trophy and an SB ring and the SB MVP title, hardly a bust. :wink:

No doubt. I wish all our 'busts' could do that lol

 

[ohiopacker]

Add Kijana Carter -RB from Penn ST drafted by the Bengals to the list .

 

[paxvogel]

Thomas and Carter were hurt. Packers could almost field their own team with Rich Campbell (#6 pick) Brent Fullwood, Jon Michaels.
Also I think the biggest bust at TE was the Notre Dame one Ken McAfee. In fact they have had several because their PR dept. got people to believe guys like him, Dave Niehaus, John Huate were supper players.

 

[4thand26]

Part of the problem is that you roll the dice with the high first rounders, but you pay a ton of money for them. I don't have a problem with proven players getting all they can, but a rookie that has not played a single down needs to prove something, IMO. I think that a good example is J Walker. He proved that he is very good. Why should he have to play 2 years before getting paid as such. I know that he signed the contract, and that is his problem, but for every guy that outplays his contract, I think that there are 5 that are underachievers.

 

[Philtration]

Add Kijana Carter -RB from Penn ST drafted by the Bengals to the list .

Yep! Has there ever been a RB with more expectations and build up only to turn out to be so much of a failure?
The number 1 overall pick in the draft and absolutely nothing in return.

 

[tromadz]

how'd rasham sallam do(i cant spell)

 

[PackerSacker54]

Add Kijana Carter -RB from Penn ST drafted by the Bengals to the list .

Yep! Has there ever been a RB with more expectations and build up only to turn out to be so much of a failure?
The number 1 overall pick in the draft and absolutely nothing in return.

I'm still holding my breath on Cedric " Texas Holdout" Benson.

I honestly wanted the "Cadillac" at #4 and my buddy, who is a Lions fan, argued with me and said if the Bears don't take Mike Williams they'll be sorry. It's funny how M.W. ended up in Detroit and sucked. Oh well, I just hope Cedric can stay healthy and do something this season. Although I have my doubts about him, it might be a little to early to call him Cedric Enis. :wink:

 

[Philtration]

how'd rasham sallam do(i cant spell)

Salaam actually gained 1,074 yards and scored 10 TDs in his rookie season. A bust no doubt but not the biggest. Curtis Enis was even worse. 1,497 yards and 4 TDS in 3 seasons and never rushed for 100 yards in a game. Salaam did it 6 times.
Dave Wannstedt made some of the worst draft picks and personnel moves in NFL history and it took the Bears years to recover from that idiots time here.

 

[Hammer]

Thomas and Carter were hurt. Packers could almost field their own team with Rich Campbell (#6 pick) Brent Fullwood, Jon Michaels.
Also I think the biggest bust at TE was the Notre Dame one Ken McAfee. In fact they have had several because their PR dept. got people to believe guys like him, Dave Niehaus, John Huate were supper players.

Tony Hunter and Walt Patulski anyone?
Hammer

 

[PackerChick]

I do not believe in top draft picks. They never live up to all their hype. Same goes for Reggie Bush.

 

[vikefan]

I do not believe in top draft picks. They never live up to all their hype. Same goes for Reggie Bush.

I agree. Give us your No. 1 and you guys start at your 2nd pick. :wink:

 

[PackerSacker54]

how'd rasham sallam do(i cant spell)

Salaam actually gained 1,074 yards and scored 10 TDs in his rookie season. A bust no doubt but not the biggest. Curtis Enis was even worse. 1,497 yards and 4 TDS in 3 seasons and never rushed for 100 yards in a game. Salaam did it 6 times.
Dave Wannstedt made some of the worst draft picks and personnel moves in NFL history and it took the Bears years to recover from that idiots time here.

Ahhhhh, "The Juronnstedt Years". I'm still trying to forget those horrible times. :x