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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Philtration" data-source="post: 18732" data-attributes="member: 213">I really do not say the Packers are falling just to upset people. It's just my opinion and all that matters are the games played on the field right?The trick to rebuilding is to not let it turn into a 10 year deal. Some teams rebound quickly but you need a good nucleus in place and smart football people making the decisions. This is why the Bears have struggled for so long. They have a clueless owner and GM and the decisions made by Dave Wannstedt were brutal and have taken years to recover from.Orton will start before he should have thanks to Angelo but they had little choice. I know that he is not a savior and I just hope that the kid does not get killed.</blockquote>

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