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<blockquote data-quote="TJV" data-source="post: 547890" data-attributes="member: 4300"><p>Regarding the front 7, I think it makes more sense to categorize the players like this:</p><p></p><p>DL only: Raji, Boyd, Daniels, Worthy (Raji and Boyd are the only “fat guys” for run stuffing short-yardage)</p><p>DL/LB: Peppers, Datone Jones, Perry, Neal</p><p>LB only: Matthews, Hawk, Brad Jones, Mulumba, Barrington, Palmer</p><p></p><p>IMO they need another “fat guy” for goal line/short yardage and I hope it’s Jolly - if they don’t clear him, then a draftee.</p><p></p><p>In Ketchman’s piece he quotes Peppers saying, “(Capers) likes to be versatile and do different things. That’s something I’ve wanted to do my whole career…” So for Dom’s detractors (including me), apparently at least part of the reason Peppers signed with the Packers was Capers. (Aside: Wasn’t it surprising with all the social media, let alone “traditional” reporters, and all the attention on the Packers in Green Bay that they kept Peppers’ visit a secret until his agent tweeted his signing?) Anyway, Peppers can play DE in the 3-4, rush inside, and stand up.</p><p></p><p>IMO it makes sense to transfer the discussion wist43 and I were having about the 2-4-5 alignment from the ‘Peppers inked’ thread here. Saying Thompson hasn’t provided the personnel but Capers should make it work seems to shift all responsibility from Thompson to Capers. By that logic all DCs should have at least good defenses no matter what they have to work with.</p><p></p><p>IMO here’s the problem with what you propose: If Capers played a 3-4 the majority of the time, the pressure on the QB would have been worse than it was since Raji, Pickett, Wilson, and Boyd provided almost no pressure. And look at whose name is missing from your list: their best DL pass rusher last season, Mike Daniels. The more Capers would have played the 3-4, the more time spent on the bench for Daniels. You made the point that Capers used the 3-4 against San Fran more than any other team and that’s correct. But that’s because the 49ers are one of the few teams that run the ball more than they throw it. Try that against the Bears who threw it about 60% or the time or the Cowboys (about 63%) and the results would have been worse.</p><p></p><p>An improved Datone Jones and Peppers gives Capers legit 3-4 DEs, something previously missing so a 3 three man line more often will make sense, but I expect most of Peppers’ snaps to be on passing downs. Look at your dime suggestion: Peppers, Daniels, D. Jones/Perry; and Matthews and Neal. Nothing wrong with that but what is the difference if only Daniels has his hand on the ground? The others can set the edge standing up as well as with their hand on the ground. And how about Daniels and Peppers lining up in the middle as DL with the others standing? IMO you are far too focused on the alignment rather than the personnel and you’re giving Thompson a pass for not providing Capers with a traditional 3-4 DE who can play the run and get pressure on the QB when that’s the alignment you’re advocating for.</p><p></p><p>As I've posted there's plenty to criticize Capers for - Thompson too regarding talent acquisition on defense - but Capers best option at one of the safety spots last season was MD Jennings. Just as I think Capers will look one hellofalot smarter with Peppers on the team, he would have looked a lot smarter with Nick Collins at safety over the past couple of seasons.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TJV, post: 547890, member: 4300"] Regarding the front 7, I think it makes more sense to categorize the players like this: DL only: Raji, Boyd, Daniels, Worthy (Raji and Boyd are the only “fat guys” for run stuffing short-yardage) DL/LB: Peppers, Datone Jones, Perry, Neal LB only: Matthews, Hawk, Brad Jones, Mulumba, Barrington, Palmer IMO they need another “fat guy” for goal line/short yardage and I hope it’s Jolly - if they don’t clear him, then a draftee. In Ketchman’s piece he quotes Peppers saying, “(Capers) likes to be versatile and do different things. That’s something I’ve wanted to do my whole career…” So for Dom’s detractors (including me), apparently at least part of the reason Peppers signed with the Packers was Capers. (Aside: Wasn’t it surprising with all the social media, let alone “traditional” reporters, and all the attention on the Packers in Green Bay that they kept Peppers’ visit a secret until his agent tweeted his signing?) Anyway, Peppers can play DE in the 3-4, rush inside, and stand up. IMO it makes sense to transfer the discussion wist43 and I were having about the 2-4-5 alignment from the ‘Peppers inked’ thread here. Saying Thompson hasn’t provided the personnel but Capers should make it work seems to shift all responsibility from Thompson to Capers. By that logic all DCs should have at least good defenses no matter what they have to work with. IMO here’s the problem with what you propose: If Capers played a 3-4 the majority of the time, the pressure on the QB would have been worse than it was since Raji, Pickett, Wilson, and Boyd provided almost no pressure. And look at whose name is missing from your list: their best DL pass rusher last season, Mike Daniels. The more Capers would have played the 3-4, the more time spent on the bench for Daniels. You made the point that Capers used the 3-4 against San Fran more than any other team and that’s correct. But that’s because the 49ers are one of the few teams that run the ball more than they throw it. Try that against the Bears who threw it about 60% or the time or the Cowboys (about 63%) and the results would have been worse. An improved Datone Jones and Peppers gives Capers legit 3-4 DEs, something previously missing so a 3 three man line more often will make sense, but I expect most of Peppers’ snaps to be on passing downs. Look at your dime suggestion: Peppers, Daniels, D. Jones/Perry; and Matthews and Neal. Nothing wrong with that but what is the difference if only Daniels has his hand on the ground? The others can set the edge standing up as well as with their hand on the ground. And how about Daniels and Peppers lining up in the middle as DL with the others standing? IMO you are far too focused on the alignment rather than the personnel and you’re giving Thompson a pass for not providing Capers with a traditional 3-4 DE who can play the run and get pressure on the QB when that’s the alignment you’re advocating for. As I've posted there's plenty to criticize Capers for - Thompson too regarding talent acquisition on defense - but Capers best option at one of the safety spots last season was MD Jennings. Just as I think Capers will look one hellofalot smarter with Peppers on the team, he would have looked a lot smarter with Nick Collins at safety over the past couple of seasons. [/QUOTE]
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