ivanfan12345
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First off the refs are inconsistant in today's NFL, but that has to do more with the rules being over complicated and confusing than anything else.
Lets take a look at the two "controversial calls".
1) TO's "fumble" - Yes it looked like he lost possession and got the ball stripped (I'd question if the Packer got his foot inbounds...its close...)
However, this is not a fumble according to the NFL rules. We all might remember a play a few weeks back when Hall did the exact same thing (excpet he stripped the ball away and picked it up) in a game versus the giants. You could clearly hear a whistle AFTER the ball was jarred loose. The play was talked about on the NFL network and the league explaination is that the instant forward progress is stopped the play is imediately dead. The whistle doesn't matter and nothing else matters. The play ends the play.
So TO caught the ball and was immediately held up stopping his forward progress right there. Therefore ending the play immediately. The stripp happened after the play was already dead. This in the NFL eyes the the same thing as down by contact.
2) The PI call - The NFL guys went crazt on this call. They just kept harping it up..IMO they created this controversy. They needed something to "talk about" and they choose that play....
Okay, the Packer defender put two hands on the receiver, he grab breifly his shoulder, ran into the receiver impedding his ability to make a play on the ball and he NEVER looked back or attempted to make a play on the ball. According the the NFL rules, incidental contact is waht occurs when both the defender and receiver make a play on the ball. (catch that....you have to make a play on the ball which GB did not) or the two players have to be running stride for stride and they feet get tangled...
They were not stride ofr stride, the defender was beat by at least a step, he NEVER made a play on the ball. That is PI.
If you want to talk about bad calls, lets look at the offsides on Ware, which happend on 3rd down and allowed the drive to continue. Leading to points on the board......That is a bad call. You have to be in the netrual zone or beyond BEFORE the ball is snapped. That didn't happen.
-Domer
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You decided for yourself..
Lets take a look at the two "controversial calls".
1) TO's "fumble" - Yes it looked like he lost possession and got the ball stripped (I'd question if the Packer got his foot inbounds...its close...)
However, this is not a fumble according to the NFL rules. We all might remember a play a few weeks back when Hall did the exact same thing (excpet he stripped the ball away and picked it up) in a game versus the giants. You could clearly hear a whistle AFTER the ball was jarred loose. The play was talked about on the NFL network and the league explaination is that the instant forward progress is stopped the play is imediately dead. The whistle doesn't matter and nothing else matters. The play ends the play.
So TO caught the ball and was immediately held up stopping his forward progress right there. Therefore ending the play immediately. The stripp happened after the play was already dead. This in the NFL eyes the the same thing as down by contact.
2) The PI call - The NFL guys went crazt on this call. They just kept harping it up..IMO they created this controversy. They needed something to "talk about" and they choose that play....
Okay, the Packer defender put two hands on the receiver, he grab breifly his shoulder, ran into the receiver impedding his ability to make a play on the ball and he NEVER looked back or attempted to make a play on the ball. According the the NFL rules, incidental contact is waht occurs when both the defender and receiver make a play on the ball. (catch that....you have to make a play on the ball which GB did not) or the two players have to be running stride for stride and they feet get tangled...
They were not stride ofr stride, the defender was beat by at least a step, he NEVER made a play on the ball. That is PI.
If you want to talk about bad calls, lets look at the offsides on Ware, which happend on 3rd down and allowed the drive to continue. Leading to points on the board......That is a bad call. You have to be in the netrual zone or beyond BEFORE the ball is snapped. That didn't happen.
-Domer
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