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<blockquote data-quote="pyledriver80" data-source="post: 94297" data-attributes="member: 194"><p><strong>Re: [DEBATE] Thompson Vs ... (Overall impressions of TT/MM/etc.)</strong></p><p></p><p>So let me get this correct......you are giving Ted Thompson credit for guys like Hawk, Jennings, and Collins at this time but are asking to give all his other picks time to develop. In time, it is possible that Hawk, Jennings and Collins may be busts as well. Maybe you should wait until they make a Pro Bowl or something before you start patting Teddy on the back. In fact if Collins continues his play of late he will be a big disapointment. Your argument consists of giving Teddy props for his finds while dodging his responsibility for the others by saying "they are young". If you want to say "they are young" then you can't include the 3 you mention because they could flop justaseasily as succeed.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I also would tend to disagree with you immensly about MS's tenure as a GM. From my experiences only people in GB or GB fans think Sherman was a failure. In fact, just the other day my buddy, a Steelers Fan, asked me why GB has headed south so fast. He made the statement that ever since your "new owner" took over it looked like GB went from playoff team to a basement team. This is the feeling I getfrom most people outside this board. I understand you want to lay the blame at MS's doorstep but also understand that all the Spin aside, MS looked like a winning GM to people. In 20 years when you open up the history books MS will rank amongst the best Packers GM's ever record wise. No matter how many outside factors you want to throw in it will remain that way forever. You can discount any record you want but in the end it will go down as what it was.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pyledriver80, post: 94297, member: 194"] [b]Re: [DEBATE] Thompson Vs ... (Overall impressions of TT/MM/etc.)[/b] So let me get this correct......you are giving Ted Thompson credit for guys like Hawk, Jennings, and Collins at this time but are asking to give all his other picks time to develop. In time, it is possible that Hawk, Jennings and Collins may be busts as well. Maybe you should wait until they make a Pro Bowl or something before you start patting Teddy on the back. In fact if Collins continues his play of late he will be a big disapointment. Your argument consists of giving Teddy props for his finds while dodging his responsibility for the others by saying "they are young". If you want to say "they are young" then you can't include the 3 you mention because they could flop justaseasily as succeed. I also would tend to disagree with you immensly about MS's tenure as a GM. From my experiences only people in GB or GB fans think Sherman was a failure. In fact, just the other day my buddy, a Steelers Fan, asked me why GB has headed south so fast. He made the statement that ever since your "new owner" took over it looked like GB went from playoff team to a basement team. This is the feeling I getfrom most people outside this board. I understand you want to lay the blame at MS's doorstep but also understand that all the Spin aside, MS looked like a winning GM to people. In 20 years when you open up the history books MS will rank amongst the best Packers GM's ever record wise. No matter how many outside factors you want to throw in it will remain that way forever. You can discount any record you want but in the end it will go down as what it was. [/QUOTE]
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