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<blockquote data-quote="pyledriver80" data-source="post: 94251" data-attributes="member: 194"><p><strong>Re: [DEBATE] Thompson Vs. ...</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>TT did let Wahle go. He had to. He had to release Wahle because we couldn't pay his roster bonus. By releasing him he cleared up cap space. What TT screwed up on was not re-signing Mike Wahle. I've admitted that but with or without Mike Wahle I don't think this team is a playoff team. People act as if this team had Mike Wahle they'd be making a Super Bowl run. I highly doubt that.</p><p></p><p>The enter offensive line that you give credit to Sherman for was brought in by Ron Wolf. Favre was Wolf. Green, Driver, Franks were all brought in by Ron Wolf. Williams Henderson was drafted by Wolf as well. Ron Wolf drafted these guys and Mike Sherman inherited them. If there was 1 mistake Wolf made it was not building a Super Bowl caliber defense. Mike Sherman never fixed Wolf’s one and only mistake as that defense wasn’t very good and the players that were good, Sharper, KGB, Diggs and McKenzie were drafted by Ron Wolf. Sherman gave us Kampman and Barnett via the draft and brought in Al Harris and Grady Jackson.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ahman Green was hurt. Javon Walker was hurt. Bubba Franks was hurt. So on and so on. We all know this team had probably more injuries than any team in football last year. The key guys who were hurt weren't guys brought in by Mike Sherman as a GM. They were guys brought in by Ron Wolf for Mike Sherman to Coach. </p><p></p><p>This team was successful because of a previous tenure with Ron Wolf that did great at drafting. Mike Sherman took over and did a fairly poor job at drafting and brining in players to put them over the top. Eventually that was going to catch up with us and it did. Starting with last year and now onto this year. Like I said it's a wait and see with Ted Thompson where as Sherman had 5 years as a GM and has very little to show for it. As a Head Coach he has a lot to show for. A winning record and division titles. As a GM not so much.[/quote:zv57eis6]</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In 6 paragraphs you still have not shown me anything other than dodging in and out of the related subject.</p><p></p><p>MS inherited a good team, I understand. So he was supposed to bench those guys so he could put in HIS GUYS? </p><p></p><p>I'm tired of arguing. In the end MS had HIS team, whether built by him or not, in the playoffs and winning division titles. Unfortunately, the same can't be said from this laughingstock of a GM. </p><p></p><p>MS's guys were never given the chance to show what they were made of because Wolf did such a good job and when TT took over they were cut and replaced by the GARBAGE we see on the field now. It certainly wouldn't be hard to be better than that good ol' 26-0 team TT gave us.</p><p></p><p>You'll learn in time, whether MS was any good is pointless. No matter what he will go down as a winning HC and a Winning GM, no matter how you want to try to put an asterik beside it. TT is certainly destroying this team, for this I am convinced. Up to this point I have been right on about this team and people are starting to catch on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pyledriver80, post: 94251, member: 194"] [b]Re: [DEBATE] Thompson Vs. ...[/b] TT did let Wahle go. He had to. He had to release Wahle because we couldn't pay his roster bonus. By releasing him he cleared up cap space. What TT screwed up on was not re-signing Mike Wahle. I've admitted that but with or without Mike Wahle I don't think this team is a playoff team. People act as if this team had Mike Wahle they'd be making a Super Bowl run. I highly doubt that. The enter offensive line that you give credit to Sherman for was brought in by Ron Wolf. Favre was Wolf. Green, Driver, Franks were all brought in by Ron Wolf. Williams Henderson was drafted by Wolf as well. Ron Wolf drafted these guys and Mike Sherman inherited them. If there was 1 mistake Wolf made it was not building a Super Bowl caliber defense. Mike Sherman never fixed Wolf’s one and only mistake as that defense wasn’t very good and the players that were good, Sharper, KGB, Diggs and McKenzie were drafted by Ron Wolf. Sherman gave us Kampman and Barnett via the draft and brought in Al Harris and Grady Jackson. Ahman Green was hurt. Javon Walker was hurt. Bubba Franks was hurt. So on and so on. We all know this team had probably more injuries than any team in football last year. The key guys who were hurt weren't guys brought in by Mike Sherman as a GM. They were guys brought in by Ron Wolf for Mike Sherman to Coach. This team was successful because of a previous tenure with Ron Wolf that did great at drafting. Mike Sherman took over and did a fairly poor job at drafting and brining in players to put them over the top. Eventually that was going to catch up with us and it did. Starting with last year and now onto this year. Like I said it's a wait and see with Ted Thompson where as Sherman had 5 years as a GM and has very little to show for it. As a Head Coach he has a lot to show for. A winning record and division titles. As a GM not so much.[/quote:zv57eis6] In 6 paragraphs you still have not shown me anything other than dodging in and out of the related subject. MS inherited a good team, I understand. So he was supposed to bench those guys so he could put in HIS GUYS? I'm tired of arguing. In the end MS had HIS team, whether built by him or not, in the playoffs and winning division titles. Unfortunately, the same can't be said from this laughingstock of a GM. MS's guys were never given the chance to show what they were made of because Wolf did such a good job and when TT took over they were cut and replaced by the GARBAGE we see on the field now. It certainly wouldn't be hard to be better than that good ol' 26-0 team TT gave us. You'll learn in time, whether MS was any good is pointless. No matter what he will go down as a winning HC and a Winning GM, no matter how you want to try to put an asterik beside it. TT is certainly destroying this team, for this I am convinced. Up to this point I have been right on about this team and people are starting to catch on. [/QUOTE]
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