DD

[Aytumious]

IM TIRED OF JUST SEEING THIS THREAD ON HERE. MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE WHAT SO EVER HOW ANYONE CAN QUESTION IF HE IS ELITE OR NOT. MUST BE SOME FAKE PACKER FANS ON HERE AND FAKE NFL FANS ON HERE THAT JUST COMPARE PLAYERS BASED ON STATS. EVEN THOUGH HIS STATS SHOW HE IS GREAT RIGHT THERE. BUT IF YOU HAVE WATCHED THE PACKERS PLAY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS YOU SEE DONALD DRIVER MAKE A CATCH AND TURN A SMALL GAIN INTO A HUGE GAIN. REFUSES TO GET TACKLED.

hear, hear....DD is a stud and anyone arguing hes not elite IS a fake packer fan and should get the hell out of here

Blah, blah, blah.

 

[Zombieslayer]

DD is damn good, but he's not elite. That's no knock on him. There are some HOF caliber guys playing right now and DD isn't a HOF player. Again, no knock on him. I'm damn happy to have him, but a person can't objectively put him over guys like Chad Johnson, Moss, TO, Holt, Harrison, Wayne, Andre Johnson, Fitzgerald, etc.

To the guy that compared him to Sharpe, he's not even close. Sharpe was clearly the best receiver in the league behind only a prime Jerry Rice. In 1992, Sharpe led the NFL in receptions, receiving yards, and TDs. Think about that for a second. I don't know if anyone else has done that. His 18 TDs in his final season (1994) are the 2nd most in NFL history. Sharpe was a beast.

Interesting you bring this up.

We had a post here awhile back to see if anyone thought DD had a shot at the Hall. I think most of us agreed that he had a long shot, but it was possible.

If he makes the Hall, he's elite, no more argument.

Top 50 Receptions - DD has 469 currently. #50 has 590. He should be there in two years after this one.

Top 50 Receiving Yards - DD has 6531 currently. #50 has 8719. He should be there in two years after this one.

Top 50 Receiving TDs - DD has 38. #50 has 63. DD should be there in four years after this one.

The thing is, once you get in the top 50, it's easy to climb. How many years will DD play after this season? Hard to say. He might decide to retire when Favre retires.

Yes, DD is a long shot to make the Hall. But who playing today is a lock? Moss and Harrison. That's it. T.O. should go in. Torry Holt might go in. Chad Johnson won't go in. Steve Smith can if he stays healthy, but that's a big if.

I'd love to see DD go on to have a long career. He's one of my favorite players. I think the last 3 seasons, he's been elite. This season, our O is different, and spreads the ball out more.

DD is a workout demon. If he decides to play past Favre's retirement, I can honestly see him playing five years after this. The longer he plays, the better shot he has of making the Hall. DD relies more on route running than speed, so losing a step isn't going to hurt him as much as it would hurt other WRs.

If I could compare DD to anyone, I'd probably compare him to Steve Largent, who is probably before a lot of your times. Those of you who are older would know who I'm talking about.

 

[Aytumious]

DD is damn good, but he's not elite. That's no knock on him. There are some HOF caliber guys playing right now and DD isn't a HOF player. Again, no knock on him. I'm damn happy to have him, but a person can't objectively put him over guys like Chad Johnson, Moss, TO, Holt, Harrison, Wayne, Andre Johnson, Fitzgerald, etc.

To the guy that compared him to Sharpe, he's not even close. Sharpe was clearly the best receiver in the league behind only a prime Jerry Rice. In 1992, Sharpe led the NFL in receptions, receiving yards, and TDs. Think about that for a second. I don't know if anyone else has done that. His 18 TDs in his final season (1994) are the 2nd most in NFL history. Sharpe was a beast.

Interesting you bring this up.

We had a post here awhile back to see if anyone thought DD had a shot at the Hall. I think most of us agreed that he had a long shot, but it was possible.

If he makes the Hall, he's elite, no more argument.

Top 50 Receptions - DD has 469 currently. #50 has 590. He should be there in two years after this one.

Top 50 Receiving Yards - DD has 6531 currently. #50 has 8719. He should be there in two years after this one.

Top 50 Receiving TDs - DD has 38. #50 has 63. DD should be there in four years after this one.

The thing is, once you get in the top 50, it's easy to climb. How many years will DD play after this season? Hard to say. He might decide to retire when Favre retires.

Yes, DD is a long shot to make the Hall. But who playing today is a lock? Moss and Harrison. That's it. T.O. should go in. Torry Holt might go in. Chad Johnson won't go in. Steve Smith can if he stays healthy, but that's a big if.

I'd love to see DD go on to have a long career. He's one of my favorite players. I think the last 3 seasons, he's been elite. This season, our O is different, and spreads the ball out more.

DD is a workout demon. If he decides to play past Favre's retirement, I can honestly see him playing five years after this. The longer he plays, the better shot he has of making the Hall. DD relies more on route running than speed, so losing a step isn't going to hurt him as much as it would hurt other WRs.

If I could compare DD to anyone, I'd probably compare him to Steve Largent, who is probably before a lot of your times. Those of you who are older would know who I'm talking about.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/misc/rcy.htm

There are more than just TDs to consider. I don't think DD has a chance because he started so late.

That list is current. You've got Harrison and Bruce in the top 10. Harrison should finish second only to Rice in yards. TO is 10th in receptions, 12th in yards, and 4th in TDs and still has plenty left in the tank. He's a lock, IMO. Moss is a lock. You've got McKardell in there. Jimmy Smith and Rod Smith just retired recently and have much better career numbers than DD. Do you put them in?

Click on the active players in that list and scroll down a bit and you can see where they rank all time. Even guys like Muhammed, Galloway, and Moulds have had more productive careers in terms of top 50 all time in receptions, yards, and TDs.

I also wouldn't be so quick to write off Johnson. He's having another massive year and is going to go to his 5th straight Pro Bowl. That is incredible. He already has more receptions, yards, and TDs than DD and he's three years younger.

Holt could make his 6th straight Pro Bowl and is having another 90+ grab, 1200 yard season. He's already 20th in grabs, 19th in yards, and 30th in TDs and he's younger than DD.

I honestly don't think DD has a chance. Even if he plays 5 more years -- highly unlikely at his age -- his production will drop drastically with his declining skills and the emergence of other players. He might not even get 1000 yards this season because there are so many weapons around him, even though we throw the ball more than any team in the league.

 

[Zombieslayer]

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/misc/rcy.htm

There are more than just TDs to consider. I don't think DD has a chance because he started so late.

That list is current. You've got Harrison and Bruce in the top 10. Harrison should finish second only to Rice in yards. TO is 10th in receptions, 12th in yards, and 4th in TDs and still has plenty left in the tank. He's a lock, IMO. Moss is a lock. You've got McKardell in there. Jimmy Smith and Rod Smith just retired recently and have much better career numbers than DD. Do you put them in?

Click on the active players in that list and scroll down a bit and you can see where they rank all time. Even guys like Muhammed, Galloway, and Moulds have had more productive careers in terms of top 50 all time in receptions, yards, and TDs.

I also wouldn't be so quick to write off Johnson. He's having another massive year and is going to go to his 5th straight Pro Bowl. That is incredible. He already has more receptions, yards, and TDs than DD and he's three years younger.

Holt could make his 6th straight Pro Bowl and is having another 90+ grab, 1200 yard season. He's already 20th in grabs, 19th in yards, and 30th in TDs and he's younger than DD.

I honestly don't think DD has a chance. Even if he plays 5 more years -- highly unlikely at his age -- his production will drop drastically with his declining skills and the emergence of other players. He might not even get 1000 yards this season because there are so many weapons around him, even though we throw the ball more than any team in the league.

Yeah, that's what we pretty much said in the thread. He's a long shot.

It's a shame, because DD is such a great guy. You never know though. There's always a shot.

 

[wpr]

I love DD. He came up big time after time today. Unless he plays until he is 40 (his quote not mine.) I doubt he makes into the hOF.

 

[Aytumious]

Yeah, that's what we pretty much said in the thread. He's a long shot.

It's a shame, because DD is such a great guy. You never know though. There's always a shot.

He is a great guy and a hell of a tough, productive player. He just started too late to get HOF consideration. He could certainly be a Packer HOF player though. That's good enough for me and I think he's deserving. I hope he plays well into the AR era.

Funny story about DD. I have a very good friend who is a big Bears fan, but also very knowledgeable about sports overall (he has to be to deal with me ). I compared DD to a very good receiver 4 or 5 years ago, and he said, "Wait just a minute. He might be a homeless man's so and so (I don't remember who I compared him to). Insult, obviously. His face was priceless when I told him DD was actually homeless when he was younger. I doubt I'll ever see that look on his face again.

 

[cyoung]

DD is damn good, but he's not elite. That's no knock on him. There are some HOF caliber guys playing right now and DD isn't a HOF player. Again, no knock on him. I'm damn happy to have him, but a person can't objectively put him over guys like Chad Johnson, Moss, TO, Holt, Harrison, Wayne, Andre Johnson, Fitzgerald, etc.

To the guy that compared him to Sharpe, he's not even close. Sharpe was clearly the best receiver in the league behind only a prime Jerry Rice. In 1992, Sharpe led the NFL in receptions, receiving yards, and TDs. Think about that for a second. I don't know if anyone else has done that. His 18 TDs in his final season (1994) are the 2nd most in NFL history. Sharpe was a beast.

Interesting you bring this up.

We had a post here awhile back to see if anyone thought DD had a shot at the Hall. I think most of us agreed that he had a long shot, but it was possible.

If he makes the Hall, he's elite, no more argument.

Top 50 Receptions - DD has 469 currently. #50 has 590. He should be there in two years after this one.

Top 50 Receiving Yards - DD has 6531 currently. #50 has 8719. He should be there in two years after this one.

Top 50 Receiving TDs - DD has 38. #50 has 63. DD should be there in four years after this one.

The thing is, once you get in the top 50, it's easy to climb. How many years will DD play after this season? Hard to say. He might decide to retire when Favre retires.

Yes, DD is a long shot to make the Hall. But who playing today is a lock? Moss and Harrison. That's it. T.O. should go in. Torry Holt might go in. Chad Johnson won't go in. Steve Smith can if he stays healthy, but that's a big if.

I'd love to see DD go on to have a long career. He's one of my favorite players. I think the last 3 seasons, he's been elite. This season, our O is different, and spreads the ball out more.

DD is a workout demon. If he decides to play past Favre's retirement, I can honestly see him playing five years after this. The longer he plays, the better shot he has of making the Hall. DD relies more on route running than speed, so losing a step isn't going to hurt him as much as it would hurt other WRs.

If I could compare DD to anyone, I'd probably compare him to Steve Largent, who is probably before a lot of your times. Those of you who are older would know who I'm talking about.

He should have plenty of time to get this record, because he said he wanted to play until he is forty.

 

[WinnipegPackFan]

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[de_real_deal]

Moss, Owens, Chad Johnson, Harrison, Andre Johnson, Healthy Steve Smith, Fitzgerald, Roy Williams, Braylon Edwards, Torry Holt.

Those guys are elite. DD is not. I would take them over DD every time. Doesnt mean i dont like DD or have anything against him. That does not mean i dont respect DD or think he is really good or almost as good or valuable. In order for DD to crack that list, he would have to have great hands. He just drops too many balls to be considered elite at his height.

That was definitely an elite performance today. Amazing catches, amazing YAC, big heart. DD does this once in a while to remind us that he can be elite sometimes.

 

[Aytumious]

He's been phenomenal the last two weeks. And here I thought his production would go down with all the weapons we currently have. Today he went out and had his biggest day of the year.

 

[Zombieslayer]

He's been on the edge of elite the past four years. Today, he had an elite performance. He played with the heart of a lion.

Whether or not we agree on giving him elite status, of anyone else in the NFL to throw to, I love seeing Favre to Driver the best.

 

[slowsinistermo]

did you see that catch that he took it right away from the db and bailed out favre..come on this guy is awesome

 

[Fuzznuts]

That was a great catch, but it wasn't a bad throw right to the DB or a "bail out", as you say...

It was tight coverage and Favre threw it where Driver had a chance to compete for it...

That's what a GREAT receiver does...Competes for the ball and never gives up...

I don't care if Driver's considered "elite" or not.

I'm just glad he's on the Green Bay Packers! :thumbsup:

 

[wpr]

did you see that catch that he took it right away from the db and bailed out favre..come on this guy is awesome

I was screaming at Brett for throwing that ball. My in laws, Bears fans, agreed. All of a sudden DD makes a great catch and I said, "Never mind." If the defender had turned his head just a little sooner he would have had an easy pick. Of course that is why Brett threw it when he did. Before the defense had a chance to set up and get into position.

 

[PackinSteel]

Clutchest reciever on the team!

I don't think that's a word :lol: Buty hey - it's an internet message board so who cares right?

Agree with the sentiment though. I actually felt bad for him DD when he didn't make the endzone on that one play yesterday. But - you don't hear him crying that he isn't getting the TD throws. He's just catches nearly anything thrown his way - and will NOT go down easy.

 

[wpr]

Right now he is #3 in catches and yards for WR in the NFC. Not bad for a 7th round pick out of Division 1 AA Alcorn State.
The real funny part is that we got his draft pick from the Bears for return specialist Glyn Milburn. I had forgotten that until I was reading his bio on the Packer web site.

 

[Greg C.]

If I could compare DD to anyone, I'd probably compare him to Steve Largent, who is probably before a lot of your times. Those of you who are older would know who I'm talking about.

Largent is a good comparison in some ways. Largent was tough and reliable and greatly respected by his peers, though he didn't get a lot of press. But his style of play was very different from Driver's. I remember Largent as more of a down-the-field receiver rather than a big YAC guy like Driver. Driver reminds me more of Charlie Joyner, who used to play for the Chargers.

I agree with Aytumious that Driver probably got too much of a late start to get serious HOF consideration, but I can easily picture him having five more good years in him. So it's not out of the question. I just think there are going to be too many other receivers by that time who have bigger numbers.

Here's a thought: A Super Bowl ring would help his cause. Maybe it could happen.

 

[Cowboysfan178]

Donald Driver is an extremely good WR. He is very strong and has good hands but he gets alot of TDs that should be his vultured by Jennings.

 

[Fuzznuts]

TT is an elite GM.

What?

No snotty thread claiming this thread has been hijacked by Tromadz?

Can't we have a "pure" thread on DD without TT creeping in to it? :lol:

 

[LambeauEast]

what was the question again?

Ohhh, that's right...YES!

 

[LambeauEast]

what was the question again?

Ohhh, that's right...YES!

 

[slowsinistermo]

Donald Driver is an extremely good WR. He is very strong and has good hands but he gets alot of TDs that should be his vultured by Jennings.

yeah your definitley right Driver will make 3 or 4 catches on a drive or make a deep catch and bring them near the end zone, and jennings makes a 2 or 3 yd grab for a TD. ....But the great thing about Driver is he doesn't mind this, he's such a team player and a great guy that he knows hes contributing and the TD's will come

 

[tromadz]

TT is an elite GM.

What?

No snotty thread claiming this thread has been hijacked by Tromadz?

Can't we have a "pure" thread on DD without TT creeping in to it? :lol:

You do know gopackgo and me are different people, right? Nice cheapshot though, I guess. Stay classy, Fuzzy. Yikes....

DD is elite.

 

[Buckeyepackfan]

Of all the wide receivers named in this thread as elite receivers only two(M. Harrison & T. Holt)have the heart and desire that DD has.

Catching Td's and having to be the "STAR" of the team, does not make one "elite".

If the choice was ONE superstar receiver, or 3 or 4 guys like DD, I'll take the latter. On that note I believe DD is having a very positive effect on the young guys on the team, showing them the right way to become successful.

There is a lot to be said about leadership from a teams veterans.

DD is an "elite" receiver because of all the points I mentioned above.

Heart, Desire,Leadership, stats are for Fantasy Football.

DD said last week he hopes to play till he is 40, I can see that happen the way he keeps himself in shape, maybe he can become an elite receiver before he retires. :roll: :roll: :roll:

 

[Zombieslayer]

Donald Driver is an extremely good WR. He is very strong and has good hands but he gets alot of TDs that should be his vultured by Jennings.

yeah your definitley right Driver will make 3 or 4 catches on a drive or make a deep catch and bring them near the end zone, and jennings makes a 2 or 3 yd grab for a TD. ....But the great thing about Driver is he doesn't mind this, he's such a team player and a great guy that he knows hes contributing and the TD's will come

That's the beauty of Driver. He's happy when ANYONE on the Packers gets a TD. he's right there congratulating the scorer on practically every TD pass.

DD doesn't need recognition. He doesn't need press. He just likes to win. Yet another reason he's my favorite WR in the NFL.