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Message: <blockquote data-quote="El Guapo" data-source="post: 1063533" data-attributes="member: 5830">I think that they would have run into the same culture problem. Coaches can change the player culture but the owner/president needs to change the organization's culture to create a winning atmosphere.The Packers had the same problem in the 70s and 80s. Bob Harlen came in and recognized that from the secretaries to the janitor to the players there was an organizational culture that prevented the team from winning. That's how the Packers turned it around, and I believe that is why we have transitioned from Holmgren to Sherman to McCarthy to LaFleur and maintained a winning tradition for 30+ years.</blockquote>

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