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<blockquote data-quote="HardRightEdge" data-source="post: 878538"><p>The key point being you can't get around <em>signing bonus</em> dead cap. You can trade away or renegotiate future salary, roster bonuses, workout bonuses or incentives, but not those signing bonus amounts. Once you pay a guy cash money, which is what a signing bonus happens to be, it's going to count against your cap sooner or later.</p><p></p><p>I'll summarize my other point.</p><p></p><p>Scenario 1: If Rodgers and Love are on the roster in 2021, their combined cap costs in round numbers = $36.4 mil (Rodgers) + $2.8 mil (Love estimated) = $39.2 mil.</p><p></p><p>Scenario 2: If Rodgers is traded after 2020 before his 2021 roster bonus comes due, their combined cap cost = $31.6 mil (Rodgers dead cap) + $2.8 mil (Love estimated) = $34.4 mil, for a $4.8 mil cap savings.</p><p></p><p>Under what conditions would Scenario 2 make sense? Easy. If the Packer brass commits to Love as the starting QB in 2021. How could that be possible? If Rodgers is injured for an extended period in 2020, Love proves to be a revelation, for instance showing the promise Mayfield showed as rookie, not anything you'd call elite but as a rookie showing considerable upside. That could happen in 2022 instead with $22.6 mil in cap savings.</p><p></p><p>While turning the page in 2021 is highly improbable, or 2022 a bit less improbable, it is certainly possible. I doubt Love will ever be an above average NFL QB, but stranger things have happened.</p><p></p><p>It was reported that Belichick wanted to keep Garoppolo but Kraft directed him to trade him before he hit free agency. Belichick couldn't pay both Brady and Garoppolo's second contract; he was ready to turn the page. That might have cost the organization that 2019 ring, or maybe not. On the other hand, Belichick would have had Garoppolo then, now, and x number of years into the future, a guy who has a habit of winning football games, instead of Stidham who has thrown all of 4 NFL passes.</p><p></p><p>We have a default expectation but with many unknows. What we do know is the Packers traded up and reached for Love with some idea in mind, certainly not etched in stone, that did not include that nonsense about the Wolf way, that you cannot have enough good QBs, the idea that such QBs would have good trade value if it came down to it. Like Hasselbeck, a 6th. rounder who netted 7 slots in the first round and a 3rd. round pick? Or Aaron Brooks, a 4th. rounder who netted a 3rd. round pick?</p><p></p><p>This is certainly not that. Oh, wait...the QB with trade value is Rodgers! <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/rolleyes.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> Trade for him after the 2020 season and you can have his services for 3 years at a grand total of $73 mil with nothing guaranteed!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardRightEdge, post: 878538"] The key point being you can't get around [I]signing bonus[/I] dead cap. You can trade away or renegotiate future salary, roster bonuses, workout bonuses or incentives, but not those signing bonus amounts. Once you pay a guy cash money, which is what a signing bonus happens to be, it's going to count against your cap sooner or later. I'll summarize my other point. Scenario 1: If Rodgers and Love are on the roster in 2021, their combined cap costs in round numbers = $36.4 mil (Rodgers) + $2.8 mil (Love estimated) = $39.2 mil. Scenario 2: If Rodgers is traded after 2020 before his 2021 roster bonus comes due, their combined cap cost = $31.6 mil (Rodgers dead cap) + $2.8 mil (Love estimated) = $34.4 mil, for a $4.8 mil cap savings. Under what conditions would Scenario 2 make sense? Easy. If the Packer brass commits to Love as the starting QB in 2021. How could that be possible? If Rodgers is injured for an extended period in 2020, Love proves to be a revelation, for instance showing the promise Mayfield showed as rookie, not anything you'd call elite but as a rookie showing considerable upside. That could happen in 2022 instead with $22.6 mil in cap savings. While turning the page in 2021 is highly improbable, or 2022 a bit less improbable, it is certainly possible. I doubt Love will ever be an above average NFL QB, but stranger things have happened. It was reported that Belichick wanted to keep Garoppolo but Kraft directed him to trade him before he hit free agency. Belichick couldn't pay both Brady and Garoppolo's second contract; he was ready to turn the page. That might have cost the organization that 2019 ring, or maybe not. On the other hand, Belichick would have had Garoppolo then, now, and x number of years into the future, a guy who has a habit of winning football games, instead of Stidham who has thrown all of 4 NFL passes. We have a default expectation but with many unknows. What we do know is the Packers traded up and reached for Love with some idea in mind, certainly not etched in stone, that did not include that nonsense about the Wolf way, that you cannot have enough good QBs, the idea that such QBs would have good trade value if it came down to it. Like Hasselbeck, a 6th. rounder who netted 7 slots in the first round and a 3rd. round pick? Or Aaron Brooks, a 4th. rounder who netted a 3rd. round pick? This is certainly not that. Oh, wait...the QB with trade value is Rodgers! :rolleyes: Trade for him after the 2020 season and you can have his services for 3 years at a grand total of $73 mil with nothing guaranteed! [/QUOTE]
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