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Could GB run 3-4?

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by mattresell, Jan 18, 2006.

  1. mattresell

    mattresell Cheesehead

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    It's been rumored that Jerry gray might run a 3-4 defense. This poses the question, if he was our DC, could our current personnel make the switch?

    Obviously, KGB is not a 3-4 DE. Could he make the transition to OLB?

    Could Cole replace him at DE?

    Grady a NG?

    How dominant could Barnett and AJ Hawk be playing side by side?

    Let's hear your thoughts. Could we make the switch and would you want to?
     
  2. LambeauLeaper

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    My guess is that after the coaching staff is formed, the players will be brought in or sent out based on whatever the new staff wants to run. I would like to see the 3-4 mainly because it seems to always throw us for a loop when we play against a team that runs it. I think the combo of Barnett and AJ Hawk in the middle would be pretty damn sweet. I think after that, the key would be finding the appropriate OLBs to run it effectively. I don't know if it would be a great idea in the end, but if they decided that's what they wanted to do I'd be intrigued by it.
     
  3. tromadz

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    I've said this multiple times, not because I think he'd be a great LB, but because he is so overmatched at DE now.

    Grady Jackson, Cullen Jenkins & Montgomery\Cole\Kampman on the line

    KGB(olb) AJ Hawk(ilb) Paris Lenon(ilb) Nick Barnett(olb)

    thats how I would do it NOW, with our current staff. Paris might be gone, robert thomas is probably gone, we got young guys who arent proven,etc. I really liked Lenon. He made huuuge strides. He made some great plays, and some monster games. I am a paris lenon fan. He isnt great, and some could make the argument he isnt even good. But he has heart and hustle. Watching him cover Moose Muhammad vs Chicago all the way downfield was so impressive guys....I almost blew my load watching that. He also gets his hands on a lot of balls, is in the right place a lot. I think with some more coaching and guidance he could be a solid LB in the league, and hopefully GB. (when did this turn into a Lenon post)
     
  4. Greg C.

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    I like Paris Lenon too, and I think he's underappreciated.

    It would be fun to see the Packers play a 3-4 defense. We do have several defensive linemen who are end/tackle hybrids and could possibly play DE in that defense: Kampman, Jenkins, and Peterson would be best. It would probably be necessary to hold onto Grady Jackson, because you need a real stout nose tackle in that defense.

    Hawk and Barnett in the middle would be great, but I almost don't want to talk about Hawk too much, for fear of putting a jinx on the Packers that keeps them from getting him.

    As for KGB, a couple years ago in training camp they tried him out as the OLB in a 3-4 alignment, though I never heard much about the results and they never used him in a game that way. Physically, he seems like a real good fit for it.

    So with what the Packers have right now, plus Hawk, they could use this lineup:

    DE: Jenkins/Peterson/Montgomery
    NT: Grady/Colin Cole
    DE: Kampmann

    OLB: KGB
    ILB: Hawk
    ILB: Barnett
    OLB: Lenon

    This could be beefed up with some draft picks, trades, or free agent acquisitions.
     
  5. 4packgirl

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    well, as you know, i'm just a chick but now i think i finally understand the 3-4 defense!!!!! thanks a bunch - i'm learning guys!!! :cheerleader:
     
  6. billv

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    My concern is that linebacker isn't deep for us right now, and the 3-4 means more linebackers.
     
  7. tromadz

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    well we have some young guys(who got hurt) as well, cant forget about them.
     
  8. dhpackr

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    no way i see kgb playing olb. he can't run, how do you think kgb would handle coverage? an eight year veteran de, moving to sam or will lber? i don't think kgb can run well enough to make plays.
     
  9. longtimefan

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    I agree with you, however he should get a chance to see if he can do it...
     
  10. tromadz

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    KGB is fast...what do you mean he cant run? his coverage could easilly be better than Carrolls...but thats not saying much
     
  11. NDPackerFan

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    Don't the Dolphins run a 3-4 now with Saban as HC??? I think Jason Taylor is in coverage much more now and he is getting the job done, I don't see why KGB couldn't do the same.
     
  12. arrowgargantuan

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    with this roster, nah. not imo.
     
  13. Toronto_Cheesehead

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    Well even though a 3-4 OLB is primarily a pass rusher, the guy still has to be able to tackle and play the run. KGB can't do that. If the team ever did go to a 34 defense he'd be cut. Brady Poppinga would probably make a good 3-4 OLB. We could draft another tweener to play on the other side.
     
  14. HatestheEagles084

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    CON: we're not exactly deep at linebacker

    PRO: Grady Jackson is a proto. nose tackle that the 3-4 needs, Colin Cole, Mike Montgomery and Cullen Jenkins would be good 3-4 DE's--they require size and capability against the run...Richard Seymour pushes 300 lbs, and is a teriffic end in a 3-4 system

    I'd be willing to see what Kampman would do at OLB in a 3-4, one thing for certain is he'd give his all
     
  15. dhpackr

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    jason taylor>kgb
    get it now?
     
  16. dhpackr

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    kampman is even slower than kgb
     
  17. ChuckSTG

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    Manny Lawson out of NC state would be perfect for an OLB for the 3-4 defense. Will go 2nd or 3rd round. Get hawk in the 1st and a Running back in the 2nd round.

    LE: Kampman
    NT: Grady/Cole
    RE: Jenkins

    OLB's: Poppinga & Lawson
    ILB: Barnett and Hawk

    Looks solid enough. and get more LB in the later roudns
     

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