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Corey Williams currently not part of Packers long term plan?

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by all about da packers, May 21, 2007.

  1. all about da packers

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    That surprises me a bit.

    Williams could develop into a nice pass rushing DT, and with KGB seemingly producing less and less, Williams would have been a welcome addition.

    Why wouldn't the Packers start some preliminary contract talks to bring Williams back? Ted has said he wants to lock up the young players, and I thought Williams had a bright future.
     
  2. tromadz

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    where does that say hes not in the long term plans?

    he was practicing with the starters this week i read.
     
  3. all about da packers

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    Williams said there were no talks on an extension yet, and Ted has said that he wants to lock up his young nucleus long-term. I'd have thought Williams would be part of that, and there'd at least be some talks that had occurred (even initial talks).

    Maybe I'm remembering it wrong, but I thought I read that Williams and Cole split 1st team reps evenly?
     
  4. cheesey

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    Re: Corey Williams currently not part of Packers long term p

    I heard that his agent had some talk with the team, but not alot so far. I think the talks will start and things will get worked out.
     
  5. Bertram

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    You gotta have more than two capable DTs...
     
  6. Packnic

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    theres a long time before we gotta worry about losing williams. it will be ok.

    let him play a little bit more and make very sure you wanna lock this guy up. when you have a lot of youth, the team is gonna run way under the cap, because of low contracts. However, when you start "locking up players long term" it starts gettin pricey.

    so you lock up nick, and a bunch of other young guys... the cap starts running short.... so i say, take your time make sure this guy is worth all the money your about to give him. you cant lose him right now, all you can do is lock yourself into a contract that he may prove unworthy of during the season. if he plays awesome this year you pay him what he wants.... if he has a worse season, you probally still get to keep him, just at a reduced price.
    the waiting game is fine with me. but i dont think it will be a problem. we still got plenty of time.
     
  7. Pack93z

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    There lies the rub... what if he has a couple of games like Jenkins did at the end of the year... then that price tag just went up.

    If you like what he brings.. try to negotiate a contract on potential and let this coaching staff bring the talent out.

    Not to mention that Corey looks around the locker room and starts feeling a little undervalued.

    Letting guys hit the open market isn't a way to manage your cap, you wind up paying more for the player. IE... Bubba & Green.

    My opinion... but like you say there is alot of time to get it done if you want it done. Depends on the players personallity... wether he will be satisfied and loaf or push it harder and excel after the contract is up.
     
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    This is kind of like an incentive contract.
    He can pick up his game and earn his bigger contract or he can fall on his a??.
    Either way the Packers have plenty of time to decide his worth before they sign him or lose him.
     
  9. tromadz

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    Contract talks NEVER go as fast as the players want it to be.
     
  10. retiredgrampa

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    I really like the depth TT has built on the DL. Injuries WILL happen in the normal course of events. With a sufficient corps of players it can be overcome. Corey is one of this group. He will have one great season because he knows how important this season is to him finacially. It will determine his status for the next 4 yrs. at least. TT will be forced to pay Corey's price, but thank heavens, he has the cap space to do it.
     
  11. cheesey

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    There is a gamble no matter how they approach it. If they sign a big contract now, he may pull a "Freeman" or "Bubba" and dog it. Or, he could become big this year and bring his supposed value way up.
    Either way, if he signs a contract now, and plays HUGE, he STILL is gonna want to restructure it in a year or two, like most (not all, most) players end up doing. As soon as he sees other guys playing his position getting more money then he is, if he is like MOST players, he will feel "dissed" and want more.
    Now......I don't personally know him, and maybe he's not that way. I'm just going on what i see alot of players doing now adays.
     
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    I'm not sure why Corey should feel bad because Harrell was signed. After all, Allen was let go so we were one short on the DL. It was NOT a slap at him, IMO. As TT said, the Lord only makes a few capable DL, and he was smart to get the 2nd best one. Hell, he could well turn out to be the best in the final analysis. I certainly expect him to be better than Branch who tends to be fat and lazy. Still, I'll relax some when Corey gets his contract. I think TT is holding back in order to see just how hard Corey will push himself this year. Not a bad stategy.
     

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