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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pokerbrat2000" data-source="post: 1001206" data-attributes="member: 7261">Like I said, the term "bust", means different things to different people.  For me it all comes down to what resources were invested into a player by a team VS what the team gets back from said player.I get people saying "oh but he got injured, it wasn't his fault."  Right, he did, but was the injury due to something the player did or didn't do?  Maybe he lacked good conditioning and/or stretching?  Bad diet? Bad technique, etc.  Maybe just an accident/tough break.  Bottom line, the teams return on their investment declined.Do you give a player a pass when he mentally isn't as focused as he should be?  How do you tell when a player checks out or gives less than he should?  Is a lack of effort and dedication an "injury"?  Is a persons brain not fully functioning the same as a guy that is 100% all in all the time? Lots of things to look at when fully evaluating a player over his career.  Some of it is obvious, some not.  Some of it is measurable, some not.  So yeah, dice up what the meaning of "bust" is for you, but I bet the fan sitting next to you might have a different opinion.Tony Mandarich was a huge bust, but I put that more on the Packers for not doing their homework before drafting the guy.</blockquote>

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