Coaches on the Move

[Wi. Mike now in Florida]

Why is it that most NFL coaches get fired, always land on their feet on some other team?

They obvious didn't work out, then they go to another team and that team thinks they're the second coming of Christ.

 

[milani]

Why is it that most NFL coaches get fired, always land on their feet on some other team?

They obvious didn't work out, then they go to another team and that team thinks they're the second coming of Christ.

It happens in other pro sports as well. There is a recycling if some coaches and blending of new coaches.

 

[OldSchool101]

A little story about one of our own Staff on the move.

A new GM in Miami: Dolphins are finalizing a deal to hire... - ESPN

Read the breaking news story from the ESPN contributor Adam Schefter

www.espn.com

 

[Pkrjones]

The 2 "drawbacks" to hiring John Harbaugh as HC are price (theorized $20mil/yr) and that he couldn't get the Ravens back to a Super Bowl even with an NFL MVP (Lamar Jackson).

Aaron Rodgers won MVP 4 times, and McCarthy only led GB to 1 Super Bowl with him (the year before he won his 1st) and MLF didn't lead GB to even a single SB with 2 AR MVP's.

Before that Holmgren had Favre and his 3 MVP seasons, but he at least led GB to back to back SB's, winning 1 after '96 season.

Don't think MVP QB should be held against Harbaugh if GB's previous coaches aren't responsible for wasting MVP's, either.

 

[milani]

The 2 "drawbacks" to hiring John Harbaugh as HC are price (theorized $20mil/yr) and that he couldn't get the Ravens back to a Super Bowl even with an NFL MVP (Lamar Jackson).

Aaron Rodgers won MVP 4 times, and McCarthy only led GB to 1 Super Bowl with him (the year before he won his 1st) and MLF didn't lead GB to even a single SB with 2 AR MVP's.

Before that Holmgren had Favre and his 3 MVP seasons, but he at least led GB to back to back SB's, winning 1 after '96 season.

Don't think MVP QB should be held against Harbaugh if GB's previous coaches aren't responsible for wasting MVP's, either.

Harbaugh has been around the block. He certainly can implement a good program. And for some reason his Raven teams were ALWAYS very smash mouth. But can he motivate a young team that lacks mental toughness and confidence in crunch time?

 

[Pkrjones]

Just saw that in addition to $20mil/yr salary Harbaugh is looking for either GM-type player control or wants to install a GM of his choosing. I'm very fine keeping Gute in place, especially since we won't have dubious 1st round picks for a few years. Let him keep working his day2/3 magic with the roster. Would like to find an agressive, hard nosed HC like Vrabel or Campbell to instill smash-mouth, take no prisoner mentality.

 

[OldSchool101]

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Just saw that in addition to $20mil/yr salary Harbaugh is looking for either GM-type player control or wants to install a GM of his choosing. I'm very fine keeping Gute in place, especially since we won't have dubious 1st round picks for a few years. Let him keep working his day2/3 magic with the roster. Would like to find an agressive, hard nosed HC like Vrabel or Campbell to instill smash-mouth, take no prisoner mentality.

Those are also 2 of my favorites. Vrabel is a Master technician when working time management. I watched him live drive Bill Belichick crazy mad. Bill thought Vrabel was cheating, but in fact Vrabel knew the rulebook better and Aced his competition into a slow, painful, methodical bleed.

 

[shockerx]

Any names, How do we find a guy like that?

 

[Pkrjones]

I threw it out later last week that I wouldn't mind canning MLF, promoting Hafley to HC (or Robert Saleh), and having him pilfer (from Chicago) Al Harris as DC, Eric Bienemy as OC, and ANYBODY as ST besides Bisaccia.

 

[shockerx]

I threw it out later last week that I wouldn't mind canning MLF, promoting Hafley to HC (or Robert Saleh), and having him pilfer (from Chicago) Al Harris as DC, Eric Bienemy as OC, and ANYBODY as ST besides Bisaccia.

i thought about Harris...wonder if Chicago is going to good to leave.

 

[Pkrjones]

We already missed out on Bienemy for OC, but happy to hear Al Harris is getting an interview for DC.

 

[El Guapo]

Why is it that most NFL coaches get fired, always land on their feet on some other team?

They obvious didn't work out, then they go to another team and that team thinks they're the second coming of Christ.

Like a QB, often times coaches land in bad situations (bad ownership, bad GM selecting players, etc.).

Bill Belichick, Pete Carroll, Gary Kubiak, Tony Dungy, Andy Reid, and Jon Gruden all failed to win a Super Bowl with their first team but then got "recycled" and won the trophy with a subsequent team.

The list would grow if the list you include coaches that did even better with their second team but failed to win the Lombardi.

I'm sure that most of us can admit that we learned from each job that we've had, and coaches are no different. Sometimes they need to get fired before they figure out how to be an even better coach.

Conversely it can be risky to hire someone that has no head coaching experience.

 

[Wi. Mike now in Florida]

Anyone hear why The Packers are losing so many coaches all of a sudden?

Will the 2026 season be a rebuilding year and nobody wants to admit it?

I also read where we're in rough shape for the drift.

 

[milani]

Anyone hear why The Packers are losing so many coaches all of a sudden?

Will the 2026 season be a rebuilding year and nobody wants to admit it?

I also read where we're in rough shape for the drift.

Ya think so?

 

[OldSchool101]

Anyone hear why The Packers are losing so many coaches all of a sudden?

Will the 2026 season be a rebuilding year and nobody wants to admit it?

I also read where we're in rough shape for the drift.

Because we’re a perennial playoff caliber team. Successful teams are the ones who have their Coaches poached.

I’m convinced we are on the opposite end of the spectrum of rebuild. We resigned the same GM, HC and we have our Franchise QB. Also GB had a plethora of draft picks the last 3-4 years and LOTS of Day 1-2 picks. That created the youngest team for 3 straight seasons, but that’s going to gradually change now that players are past their 4 year Rookie deal.

 

[Pkrjones]

Because we’re a perennial playoff caliber team. Successful teams are the ones who have their Coaches poached.

I’m convinced we are on the opposite end of the spectrum of rebuild. We resigned the same GM, HC and we have our Franchise QB. Also GB had a plethora of draft picks the last 3-4 years and LOTS of Day 1-2 picks. That created the youngest team for 3 straight seasons, but that’s going to gradually change now that players are past their 4 year Rookie deal.

With the expected roster losses of both Walkers, Jenkins, Rhyan, Doubs & Willis chances are high that GB will get even younger in '26. Hopefully Gute replaces them with stud-potential 21 & 22 yr olds & not JAG's.

 

[Wi. Mike now in Florida]

With the expected roster losses of both Walkers, Jenkins, Rhyan, Doubs & Willis chances are high that GB will get even younger in '26. Hopefully Gute replaces them with stud-potential 21 & 22 yr olds & not JAG's.

So, if we're a younger team, wouldn't that help on all the injuries?
Wouldn't younger players heal faster?

 

[Pkrjones]

So, if we're a younger team, wouldn't that help on all the injuries?
Wouldn't younger players heal faster?

Not much players or trainers can do about knee injuries. Soft tissue injuries (hammies, groin, calf) are defnitely preventable, imho. Lloyd, Watson (1st 2 years), and others may be due to workout methods and young guys being too aggressive. Hopefully training staff can modify workouts the longer players are under their guidance?

 

[OldSchool101]

With the expected roster losses of both Walkers, Jenkins, Rhyan, Doubs & Willis chances are high that GB will get even younger in '26. Hopefully Gute replaces them with stud-potential 21 & 22 yr olds & not JAG's.

Hey @Pkrjones how it going.

I was going to mention that the list you gave has Elgton (30yrs) which is 1 age offset by about 5yrs. However every other player on that list is coming off a rookie contract. A pair of 26yr olds and a pair of 25yr olds, which combined is right at our 2025 age. Meanwhile the other 48 players just gained a year in age over 2025 (48 yrs spread across the roster average)

Now granted, we will soon see 7-8 Rookie deals and most will make the 53, but many teams have more than 8 selections so it’s a wash at best for to volume of draft picks being lower in 2026 for GB. Also there’s a good possibility that 1 or 2 of that FA list gets resigned + Brian alluded they’ll have enough cap freed up to “get what they need done” in FA both internal and external. This doesn’t even factor us signing a potential outside FA that older than 25-26yrs.

I’d be surprised if we stay the youngest again in 2026. 15 other teams were within <=1.0 years of our average age 25.23yrs in 2025. I don’t have the time to research which FA are gone, so well wait to see the dust settle. Now I’m not claiming we’re “old” but we won’t be 25.23yrs any longer either. I wouldn’t be shocked to see us ranked more in that Top 5 youngest though. Probably 25.5-25.9yrs age area. That’s currently top 2-8 ranked youngest.