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<blockquote data-quote="Dantés" data-source="post: 718712" data-attributes="member: 12283"><p>I think you guys are really underestimating the athleticism of both of those OLB prospects. </p><p></p><p>Watt is a total freak show. He's young in the game, but we're picking at #29. If he was developed AND had that athleticism, we would never even sniff him at #29. We may still miss out.</p><p></p><p>His sparq score is in the 93rd% for NFL edge prospects. His forty was in the 83rd%, his vertical was in the 87th%, his broad jump was in the 96th%, his three cone was in the 98th%, his short shuttle was in the 94th%, and his long shuttle was in the 99th%. Since 1999, there have been 6 dudes to be at least 245 lbs, with at least a 125" broad jump, and at least a 6.9 3 cone. Von Miller, Connor Barwin, and Devin Taylor were the previous three and now T.J. Watt, Tyus Bowser, and Jordan Willis are added to the mix.</p><p></p><p>This is incredibly rare athleticism. From 1999 until 2016, we were averaging one of these kinds of athletes every 6 years. Now there are three dudes that fit the criteria in one draft-- I really, really want one. </p><p></p><p>Additionally, this is not merely a workout warrior. He had 15.5 TFL, 11.5 sacks, 13 Hurries, 4 PBU's, 2 FF's, and a pick 6. And despite being raw, he demonstrates some refinement. He uses his hands well. He's explosive. He can bend.</p><p></p><p>The one real knock is that he has just the one year of good play. But I think that's the only reason he's an option. </p><p></p><p>Biegel, on the other hand, is more of a refined pass rusher and has more of a history of production while still being a really good athlete. 86th% forty, 56th% vert, 69th% broad, 90th% three cone, and 78th% three cone. I agree he needs to add size, but he's a nice prospect. His stats in 2016 were a let down, but that shouldn't cancel the fact that he's been productive for a long time. </p><p></p><p>2016: 6 TFL, 4 sacks, 7 Hurries, 1 PBU, 1 FF</p><p>2015: 14 TFL, 8 sacks, 8 Hurries</p><p>2014: 16.5 TFL, 7.5 sacks, 4 Hurries, 2 PBU's, 2 FF's</p><p></p><p>At the end of the 3rd round, I take that kind of an athlete with that history of production all day long.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dantés, post: 718712, member: 12283"] I think you guys are really underestimating the athleticism of both of those OLB prospects. Watt is a total freak show. He's young in the game, but we're picking at #29. If he was developed AND had that athleticism, we would never even sniff him at #29. We may still miss out. His sparq score is in the 93rd% for NFL edge prospects. His forty was in the 83rd%, his vertical was in the 87th%, his broad jump was in the 96th%, his three cone was in the 98th%, his short shuttle was in the 94th%, and his long shuttle was in the 99th%. Since 1999, there have been 6 dudes to be at least 245 lbs, with at least a 125" broad jump, and at least a 6.9 3 cone. Von Miller, Connor Barwin, and Devin Taylor were the previous three and now T.J. Watt, Tyus Bowser, and Jordan Willis are added to the mix. This is incredibly rare athleticism. From 1999 until 2016, we were averaging one of these kinds of athletes every 6 years. Now there are three dudes that fit the criteria in one draft-- I really, really want one. Additionally, this is not merely a workout warrior. He had 15.5 TFL, 11.5 sacks, 13 Hurries, 4 PBU's, 2 FF's, and a pick 6. And despite being raw, he demonstrates some refinement. He uses his hands well. He's explosive. He can bend. The one real knock is that he has just the one year of good play. But I think that's the only reason he's an option. Biegel, on the other hand, is more of a refined pass rusher and has more of a history of production while still being a really good athlete. 86th% forty, 56th% vert, 69th% broad, 90th% three cone, and 78th% three cone. I agree he needs to add size, but he's a nice prospect. His stats in 2016 were a let down, but that shouldn't cancel the fact that he's been productive for a long time. 2016: 6 TFL, 4 sacks, 7 Hurries, 1 PBU, 1 FF 2015: 14 TFL, 8 sacks, 8 Hurries 2014: 16.5 TFL, 7.5 sacks, 4 Hurries, 2 PBU's, 2 FF's At the end of the 3rd round, I take that kind of an athlete with that history of production all day long. [/QUOTE]
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