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<blockquote data-quote="SpartaChris" data-source="post: 357905" data-attributes="member: 1007"><p>I never said they should work for free, but they shouldn't be entitled to retire at 50 with a taxpayer funded pension and health care coverage just because they happen to work for the state. It's not a sustainable system, and the legacy costs are absolutely killing us. </p><p></p><p>Again, I'll refer you to California or even the PIIGS nations, where you government employment is huge. Public worker pensions and benefits have near bankrupted us in CA and did some of the PIIGS nations. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think collecting a paycheck, receiving benefits and 401k matching in a defined contribution plan in exchange for their service is more than fair. I don't get why people believe they deserve so much more than that. Newsflash- Most people AREN'T millionaires and AREN'T government workers, yet they still manage to get by. Again, why should government workers expect to be treated like royalty? What's so special about the work they're doing that they deserve to siphon off the public till for the last 30-35 years of their lives? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm middle class. I consider myself to be a "common working folk" and I am strongly against the public worker unions. Why? Because it's my tax dollars that wind up going to pay for some guy to sit on his *** starting at age 50, while I'm still busting my hump at 65. Being a state worker shouldn't entitle you to special treatment. </p><p></p><p>As for his taking away their collective bargaining rights, good for him. Even pro-union uber liberal FDR felt state workers shouldn't have collective bargaining rights, citing them as "untolerable" and "Unthinkable." </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>HUGE difference between a private workers union and a public workers union. As much as I think ALL unions should be decertified since they're unnecessary, greedy, business killing leeches, private workers have every right to unionize. Private business does not rely on public tax money to operate, so they are free to operate as they please. If they want to have a union, who am I to stop them? </p><p></p><p>Public workers, on the other hand should not be allowed to unionize. A public worker's sole job is to serve us, the taxpaying public, not themselves. There is simply no need for them to be unionized.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SpartaChris, post: 357905, member: 1007"] I never said they should work for free, but they shouldn't be entitled to retire at 50 with a taxpayer funded pension and health care coverage just because they happen to work for the state. It's not a sustainable system, and the legacy costs are absolutely killing us. Again, I'll refer you to California or even the PIIGS nations, where you government employment is huge. Public worker pensions and benefits have near bankrupted us in CA and did some of the PIIGS nations. I think collecting a paycheck, receiving benefits and 401k matching in a defined contribution plan in exchange for their service is more than fair. I don't get why people believe they deserve so much more than that. Newsflash- Most people AREN'T millionaires and AREN'T government workers, yet they still manage to get by. Again, why should government workers expect to be treated like royalty? What's so special about the work they're doing that they deserve to siphon off the public till for the last 30-35 years of their lives? I'm middle class. I consider myself to be a "common working folk" and I am strongly against the public worker unions. Why? Because it's my tax dollars that wind up going to pay for some guy to sit on his *** starting at age 50, while I'm still busting my hump at 65. Being a state worker shouldn't entitle you to special treatment. As for his taking away their collective bargaining rights, good for him. Even pro-union uber liberal FDR felt state workers shouldn't have collective bargaining rights, citing them as "untolerable" and "Unthinkable." HUGE difference between a private workers union and a public workers union. As much as I think ALL unions should be decertified since they're unnecessary, greedy, business killing leeches, private workers have every right to unionize. Private business does not rely on public tax money to operate, so they are free to operate as they please. If they want to have a union, who am I to stop them? Public workers, on the other hand should not be allowed to unionize. A public worker's sole job is to serve us, the taxpaying public, not themselves. There is simply no need for them to be unionized. [/QUOTE]
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