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<blockquote data-quote="wist43" data-source="post: 559243" data-attributes="member: 9839"><p><a href="http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81d947b8/Wild-card-playoffs-Packers-vs-Eagles-highlights" target="_blank">http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81d947b8/Wild-card-playoffs-Packers-vs-Eagles-highlights</a></p><p> </p><p>Notice on the 1st play of the game - the Eagles have 4 WR's on the field, and the Packers are in the 2-4.</p><p> </p><p>The Eagles send 5 out into the pattern, we cover with 6 (including Matthews dropping), and blitz Bishop from LOLB. We send 5 on the rush, drop Matthews, result - sack.</p><p> </p><p>By the reckoning of most on this board - that is an impossibility.</p><p> </p><p>---------------------------------------------------------</p><p> </p><p>Then notice on the next highlight, the Eagles have 3 WR's, 1 TE, and 1 RB. We are in a static 2-4.</p><p> </p><p>They run, and Leshon McCoy gains 7 yds before S Josh Bell comes up from 15 yds deep and makes the tackle. We are simply outmanned at the LOS and on the 2nd level to be able to get to McCoy.</p><p> </p><p>The conclusion should be that if we are in the 2-4 on a run/pass downs, we can't have a static 2-4 called. If we are in the 2-4, it has to be a blitz/gap responsibility call. Playing static in that situation is simply too easy for any NFL offensive line to block. </p><p> </p><p>---------------------------------------------------------</p><p> </p><p>The next play to look at is at 1:11 - the Clay Matthews sack.</p><p> </p><p>They have 3 wides, 1 TE, 1 RB, we are in a 2-4 again.</p><p> </p><p>On this play we actually send 6 - on my previous post I didn't notice that Woodson had come up into the A gap, but his blitz got eaten up, which helped free up Matthews.</p><p> </p><p><strong>We sent Jenkins, Raji, Matthews, Hawk, Walden, and Woodson on the rush.</strong></p><p> </p><p><strong>That's 6 pass rushers and 5 in coverage against 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB personnel.</strong> By what I'm reading from you guys on this website - THAT SHOULD NOT EVEN BE POSSIBLE!!! Result?? SACK.</p><p> </p><p>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p> </p><p>When we went static 2-4, more often than not they hit us pretty good.</p><p> </p><p>The bottom line is, you can play 2-4 as a subpackage, but not your base; and when you do play it on either/or downs, you can't play static.</p><p> </p><p>With the Packers personnel, I might play some 2-4 here and there, but certainly not 60-70% of the time. That's just nuts, but that's what Capers has been doing, and that is what you guys are trying to defend.</p><p> </p><p>No other team in the NFL plays defense like Dom Capers - and the last 3 years the results have been disasterous. Over half of the league doesn't even play a 2-4 - <em>EVER!!!</em> Yet you guys think the nickel can't be played in anything other than a 2-4??</p><p> </p><p>Maybe you guys need to watch some other teams play sometimes and see how the rest of the league lives??</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wist43, post: 559243, member: 9839"] [url]http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81d947b8/Wild-card-playoffs-Packers-vs-Eagles-highlights[/url] Notice on the 1st play of the game - the Eagles have 4 WR's on the field, and the Packers are in the 2-4. The Eagles send 5 out into the pattern, we cover with 6 (including Matthews dropping), and blitz Bishop from LOLB. We send 5 on the rush, drop Matthews, result - sack. By the reckoning of most on this board - that is an impossibility. --------------------------------------------------------- Then notice on the next highlight, the Eagles have 3 WR's, 1 TE, and 1 RB. We are in a static 2-4. They run, and Leshon McCoy gains 7 yds before S Josh Bell comes up from 15 yds deep and makes the tackle. We are simply outmanned at the LOS and on the 2nd level to be able to get to McCoy. The conclusion should be that if we are in the 2-4 on a run/pass downs, we can't have a static 2-4 called. If we are in the 2-4, it has to be a blitz/gap responsibility call. Playing static in that situation is simply too easy for any NFL offensive line to block. --------------------------------------------------------- The next play to look at is at 1:11 - the Clay Matthews sack. They have 3 wides, 1 TE, 1 RB, we are in a 2-4 again. On this play we actually send 6 - on my previous post I didn't notice that Woodson had come up into the A gap, but his blitz got eaten up, which helped free up Matthews. [B]We sent Jenkins, Raji, Matthews, Hawk, Walden, and Woodson on the rush.[/B] [B]That's 6 pass rushers and 5 in coverage against 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB personnel.[/B] By what I'm reading from you guys on this website - THAT SHOULD NOT EVEN BE POSSIBLE!!! Result?? SACK. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- When we went static 2-4, more often than not they hit us pretty good. The bottom line is, you can play 2-4 as a subpackage, but not your base; and when you do play it on either/or downs, you can't play static. With the Packers personnel, I might play some 2-4 here and there, but certainly not 60-70% of the time. That's just nuts, but that's what Capers has been doing, and that is what you guys are trying to defend. No other team in the NFL plays defense like Dom Capers - and the last 3 years the results have been disasterous. Over half of the league doesn't even play a 2-4 - [I]EVER!!![/I] Yet you guys think the nickel can't be played in anything other than a 2-4?? Maybe you guys need to watch some other teams play sometimes and see how the rest of the league lives?? [/QUOTE]
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