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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mondio" data-source="post: 763586" data-attributes="member: 10441"><p>kind of, depends on how they interpret it.  Sometimes it's just an incomplete pass <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/smile.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" data-shortname=":)" />  I wasn't completely clear, but if they're going to allow what i see as "quicker" catches with less control exhibited, I see more of these "incomplete" passes as "catches" maybe.  If a player is contacted by a defender, but is not in contact with him after "securing" the ball with the ground it should be a fumble.  Right now if a player is going to the ground, usually as the result of some sort of contact before securing the ball and the ball never touches the ground, it's a catch and down by contact.  If they're going to allow ground contact after that point and still be a catch, then they better rule it a fumble at that point too if they aren't currently being contacted by the defender.</p></blockquote><p></p>

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