Cam Achord new ST coach - Fire him

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I’d like to say upfront and before I know a single thing about him. He’s a complete failure. There. Now if he fails I’m covered and if he succeeds I’m pleasantly surprised. :coffee:
 

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sorry you want the team to fail
I don't know where you get that. Just because I think it was a mistake to keep MLF and I'm joking about the new ST coach? I've already said I hope MLF proves me wrong. I'm just being realistic. Do I have to be delusional to be a fan? Screw that. I've been a Packer fan since the mid 60s. Anyone who wants to question my fanhood can **** off. This whole thread was started as a joke, in case you didn't notice. I'm just playing along with it. Get a sense of humor.
 

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I don't know much about Achord, but it was time to make a change and there is really nowhere to go but UP. Maybe Gute can help out a bit and use a 6th or 7th rounder on a return guy. When was the last time the Packers had a return specialist that opponents actually feared?

Just cleaning up the mistakes and penalties that were far to prevalent with Bisaccia's units will be an improvement.
 

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His history of ST rankings have been mostly middle of the road. Hey, I’ll take that. Are we getting a top 10 guy? No. Top 15??? Yeah, looks like it. Is that infinitely better than 28-32? Yes. Quit your *****ing. This is better. Take the better situation. Also, maybe might be good, let the season play out first. Remember how everyone hated Hafley??? He was good. Front office knew better than a fan. Wait?!? What?!? Crazy…
 

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Might as well cut to the chase. Have no idea who he is or what his qualifications are, but it doesnt matter. Fire him now, before he costs us an important game.
I'm disappointed in MLF for giving Bisaccia so much time, 6 weeks I think, to decide to retire. 6 days would have been more like it. MLF made a grievous error, while a lot of STC candidates were still available and were being interviewed and hired.

In the end they hired a guy as STC who no one else thought should have the job. Well I hope this is a case of finding a diamond in the rough.
 
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I'm disappointed in MLF for giving Bisaccia so much time, 6 weeks I think, to decide to retire. 6 days would have been more like it. MLF made a grievous error, while a lot of STC candidates were still available and were being interviewed and hired.

In the end they hired a guy as STC who no one else thought should have the job. Well I hope this is a case of finding a diamond in the rough.
I dont understand that myself. I hope it isn't anything medical or personal issues. Bisaccia seemed like a very good guy and all the players seemed to really respect the guy.
 
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So i finally got around to checking out who Achord is. He was hired by Belicheck as a assistant ST coach for 2 years. He was promoted to ST coach for the next 4 years. The Pats finished #1 in ST ranking the first year and then in the middle of the Packers for the next 3. He then went to NYG as an assistant for the last 2 years and the NYG ranked in the top 10 both years.

Not overwhelming but not bad.
 

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Expectations are basically on the floor. I don't care if we have a great or even above-average special teams unit, as long as they are not actively costing us games I'll consider it a win.
 

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I dont understand that myself. I hope it isn't anything medical or personal issues. Bisaccia seemed like a very good guy and all the players seemed to really respect the guy.
That's a good point amish, thanks. Bisaccia seems like a classy guy and wouldn't put MLF in a bind. I do hope he doesn't have any medical or personal issues that delayed his decision.
 

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Expectations are basically on the floor. I don't care if we have a great or even above-average special teams unit, as long as they are not actively costing us games I'll consider it a win.
"First, do no harm" - eh Magooch? The STs guys should have The Hippocratic Oath as required reading this offseason.
 

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I dont understand that myself. I hope it isn't anything medical or personal issues. Bisaccia seemed like a very good guy and all the players seemed to really respect the guy.

I read that he might be going back to coaching college ball and he is in talks with Clemson and Dabo Swinney to possibly land there. At what capacity I don't know.

Which I guess says to me that he didn't leave GB for medical or personal reason reasons. Unless the personal reason was the Packers just simply said "Resign gracefully or we have no choice but to fire you."
 
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I read that he might be going back to coaching college ball and he is in talks with Clemson and Dabo Swinney to possibly land there. At what capacity I don't know.

Which I guess says to me that he didn't leave GB for medical or personal reason reasons. Unless the personal reason was the Packers just simply said "Resign gracefully or we have no choice but to fire you."
Possible. We will probably never know for sure what happened.
 

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Possible. We will probably never know for sure what happened.
Good article in the JS today by Tom Silverstein. He is mainly addressing the B- grade he got from players in a post-season survey (he got an A- last year).

I don't put much faith into these surveys. They are voluntary, and human nature leads people to participate in surveys when they're not happy.

But TS also addressed Bisaccia's situation. There are two sides to this - one that Bisaccia wanted to stick it to MLF by making him wait 6 weeks before deciding to leave the team. I don't buy that excuse.

The second side is that Bisaccia wanted to be closer to his family in FL and so apparently is taking the STC job at Clemson. He's leaving about $2 mil on the table, so he didn't take the decision lightly. This is more likely. It might very well take 6 weeks before deciding to leave $2 mil/year behind.

Of greater concern is 1) the loss of Sean Mannion to Philly and 2) MLF making virtually no changes to the offensive coaching staff.

I wasn't expecting wholesale change, and maybe there was no way to save Mannion. But leaving Stevanich as OC bugs me - I still don't know what he, or any OC, does on a team where the HC calls all the plays. And there has beeen no discussion about problem areas like clock management and the overall failure to make in-game adjustments.

Other than Gannon and a new-look defense, the offense is standing pat. That just seems, ummm, wrong........
 

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The second side is that Bisaccia wanted to be closer to his family in FL and so apparently is taking the STC job at Clemson.

I could be wrong, but he and his wife have a home in South Carolina, which is kind of where his coaching career all started. So going back to Clemson is a full circle moment for him.

We will probably never know, but I would hope that MLF really wasn't going to keep Bisaccia as a coach, at least at his current positions of Special Teams and Assistant to HC. If he was, another red flag for me with MLF.
 

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Other than Gannon and a new-look defense, the offense is standing pat. That just seems, ummm, wrong........
Got to agree, the offense just seems so stale and stagnant sometimes, like it's trying to move through molasses. But maybe I'm still adjusting to life without a HOF quarterback.
 

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We will probably never know, but I would hope that MLF really wasn't going to keep Bisaccia as a coach, at least at his current positions of Special Teams and Assistant to HC. If he was, another red flag for me with MLF.
Kinda sounds like it though, doesn't it?
 

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Good article in the JS today by Tom Silverstein. He is mainly addressing the B- grade he got from players in a post-season survey (he got an A- last year).

I don't put much faith into these surveys. They are voluntary, and human nature leads people to participate in surveys when they're not happy.

But TS also addressed Bisaccia's situation. There are two sides to this - one that Bisaccia wanted to stick it to MLF by making him wait 6 weeks before deciding to leave the team. I don't buy that excuse.

The second side is that Bisaccia wanted to be closer to his family in FL and so apparently is taking the STC job at Clemson. He's leaving about $2 mil on the table, so he didn't take the decision lightly. This is more likely. It might very well take 6 weeks before deciding to leave $2 mil/year behind.

Of greater concern is 1) the loss of Sean Mannion to Philly and 2) MLF making virtually no changes to the offensive coaching staff.

I wasn't expecting wholesale change, and maybe there was no way to save Mannion. But leaving Stevanich as OC bugs me - I still don't know what he, or any OC, does on a team where the HC calls all the plays. And there has beeen no discussion about problem areas like clock management and the overall failure to make in-game adjustments.

Other than Gannon and a new-look defense, the offense is standing pat. That just seems, ummm, wrong........
Imagine the Packers hiring ARod to their coaching staff. We could use a conflict of interest.
 
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