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Butler and church disagree over tweets

Discussion in 'The Atrium' started by ivo610, May 1, 2013.

  1. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    So just male on male homosexuality is bad?

    I havent seen you say female on female at all...Only male on male

    I bet you have watched female on female and never said the bible says it is wrong
     
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  2. buggybill2003

    buggybill2003 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Excuse me Texas, I never quoted anything from the new testament mate, I merely responded to an earlier thread. I will state again that I have no issue with homosexuality, as long as it is a choice, and not compulsory. I have two nephews in law who are gay. One has a long term partner and always polite and friendly. Both have been guests in my home and have been good company. The other one I have not met yet is apparently very camp and flamboyant. I have no problem with the gay thing, my problem is with the over the top flamboyance. Maybe because I was widowed 11 years ago, I`m not sure, I`ve since remarried, but I`ve always believed everybody needs and wants to be loved.
     
  3. weeds

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    Of course it's in the New Testament too. There are dozens of reoccurring themes and notions carried from the Old Testament to the New Testament. That was not a coincidence. Theologian Paul Tillich referred to it as "all that stuff".
    Problem lays in the fact that in order to ascribe to the belief in the "infallible", you also have to ascribe to many very large inconsistencies throughout The Book. The Bible doesn't judge. The writer of the book may be judging and then, the reader's interpretation also judges. Truthfully, it makes some really interesting reading when read as a literary piece versus a 'moral compass' for lack of a better term (I apologize for not having a better way of putting that last sentence).
     
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  4. texaspackerbacker

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    Yes, you got that right. The Bible calls male on male an abomination, but it says nothing about woman on woman (to the best of my knowledge). And hell yeah, male on male is just plain disgusting - eeeeww! but female on female, not so much hahaha. Mostly, though, I prefer good 'ol heterosexual porn. How about you?
     
  5. Darth Garfunkel

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    Both the new and old testament call a lot of things an abomination yet I suspect you violate those teachings on the regular.

    So why get so pinched on this one issue?
     
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  6. buggybill2003

    buggybill2003 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    No mate, somebody else actually quoted the bible in that thread, I think I merely used it in my response
     
  7. texaspackerbacker

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    I'm comfortable. How about you - setting yourself up as the Champion of Homosexuality? There are a lot of sins/a lot of Thou Shalt Nots, and we all are sinners to one degree or another. However, the designation of "abomination" is reserved for very few really rotten practices. Go ahead and name some you may have found if you really think there are less bad things in that category.
     
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    Sorry then. I saw it in your post without the yellow highlight that usually means a quote. Either way, though, the point is clear, homosexuality is condemned in the New Testament as well as the Old.
     
  9. buggybill2003

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    Sorry, that was because I had to cut and paste the quote, rather than the normal reply button. My lack of knowledge I`m afraid on this one.
     
  10. longtimefan

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    Proverbs is full of things that are abominations to God:
    Proverbs 6:16-19 - "There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers."

    Proverbs 3:32 - "For the devious person is an abomination to the Lord…"

    Proverbs 11:20 - "Those of crooked heart are an abomination to the Lord …"

    Proverbs 11:1-31 - "A false balance is an abomination to the Lord …"

    Proverbs 12:22 - "Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord …"

    Proverbs 15:8 - "The sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination to the Lord …"

    Proverbs 15:26 - "The thoughts of the wicked are an abomination to the Lord …"

    Proverbs 15:9 - "The way of the wicked is an abomination to the Lord …"

    Proverbs 16:5 - "Everyone who is arrogant in heart is an abomination to the Lord …"

    Proverbs 20:10 - "Unequal weights and unequal measures are both alike an abomination to the Lord."

    Proverbs 20:23 - "Unequal weights are an abomination to the Lord, and false scales are not good."

    Deuteronomy 24:4 - "Then her former husband, who sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after she has been defiled, for that is an abomination before the Lord."

    Isaiah 1:13 - "Bring no more vain offerings; incense is an abomination to me."

    And look who this New Testament verse lists right along with those who practice homosexuality (buggybill2003 quoted this on the previous page):

    1 Corinthians 6:9-11 - "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

    My guess is the "sexually immoral" would be those who view the perversion of pornography and brag about it publically - like on an internet forum. But of course, I'll leave that to the Ultimate Judge. And I hope there aren't any "revilers" (an abusive person) here.

    You post like yet another Christian who doesn't know much about the Holy Bible. That's not a surprise but go ahead and continue to harp on homosexual behavior. At some point many may wonder whether or not you protest too much.
     
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  13. buggybill2003

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    If this thread was a dog, it would have been euthanized by now guys.......please ?
     
  14. FrankRizzo

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    Did someone force you in here, and make you read, and reply?
     
  15. longtimefan

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    FrankRizzo

    Your next post was deleted...


    We have a thread on what your post mentioned
     
  16. realcaliforniacheese

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    The Wizard of OZ is a good book too.
     

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