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<blockquote data-quote="Voyageur" data-source="post: 1060988" data-attributes="member: 17953"><p>I know people find it hard to believe that I don't believe in Doc Rivers as a HC. I'm going to cite something from the news today. It's about Drew Timme. The 6-10 swing man between power forward and center with the Nets. The guy the Bucks brought into camp then jettisoned because he wasn't producing the way he should despite the fact they didn't have time to work with him to improve facets of his game that would make him a decent NBA player.</p><p></p><p>At the time, the Bucks were, and still are, hurting for a solid power forward/center to be used with the combo of Giannis/Lopez/Portis. The keep trying to find someone yet there he was, Timme, and they did not bother to work with him to improve his game to reach the Bucks roster. Signing him was a good decision, but how he was used, and pretty much shoved to the side even with the Herd in the G-League was pure stupidity. That's on Rivers because he just plain couldn't identify the level of talent that needed to be unlocked to develop him into a solid player for Milwaukee. The article even shows the poor utilization the Herd had with Timme, and the changes when he went to the Nets organization. The contrast is like night and day. It shows the ineptitude of Horst and Rivers in dealing with the future. Neither one really sees the development aspect that's needed to create consistency in winning. The home-grown talent idea that we see in Giannis just isn't in their view.</p><p></p><p>Drew Timme is going to be a darned good NBA player, and quite frankly, the Bucks blew the opportunity of having the guy who could give the Bucks 8-10 years of quality play swinging between his two positions. This alone should be enough to show ownership how lousy their organization is run.</p><p></p><p>Then there's the case of Ryan Rollins. Every time the kid came into the game during the early season, he showed a spark of brilliance on the court. Now, in a larger role, which should have come 3 months ago, we can see what he has to offer. He plays defense, can create offense and opportunities for others, and for his size, crashes the boards quite well, and is fast on his feet. He can go to the boards and still recover downcourt to play defense. Something I never see with Lillard. Then there's Trent and Porter. With both Giannis and Lillard out, along with Portis gone, they lit it up last night. This is what they can always bring to the table. Why in H does Rivers keep kowtowing to Lillard's theory that he has to be out there more to be productive? He isn't more productive because of it. He's less productive from a defensive standpoint, because he's not giving maximum effort, he's reserving his energy for later. That does not work in the NBA any longer. The game is so fast that no matter how good you may be on offense, you need the speed and legs to transition to defense so much faster than you did just 10 years ago.</p><p></p><p>As an example, when you think back 10 to 15 years, at a situation where you were taking the ball out on your own end of the floor and there were 10 seconds left on the clock, you were going to have to hurry the shot. Today, they go end to end in 2.5 seconds and are going into a set play in another second and getting solid opportunities at that final bucket. Meanwhile, in Milwaukee, we're watching Lillard eating up the clock and then having to fire off a nearly impossible shot while double teamed, because that's what Doc called. They don't even have time to use a play because Lillard consumes all the time on the clock checking out the defense.</p><p></p><p>Then there's the under-utlization of Porter and Trent. These two should be getting more time on the floor along with Rollins. This is on Rivers too. He's also done everything he can to destroy Kuzma's game. That too is on Rivers. The guy is not a good coach.</p><p></p><p>I can guarantee you one thing. If I owned the Bucks, guys like Horst and Rivers wouldn't even be welcome in the stadium without buying a ticket. Neither one of them is really what they seem to think they are in their own minds.</p><p></p><p>Think about the Timme situation. In the end, it will point out exactly what I'm talking about. And Timme and his capability is just starting to be untapped. Think Giannis and the painstaking journey and then realize Timme might well have been an even quicker trajectory to stardom. In fact, he just might have been the guy to positionally replace Giannis if he's traded or decides he's had enough of losing in Milwaukee. Like they say in Italy, "Qué será, será."</p><p></p><p>qué será, será</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://athlonsports.com/college/gonzaga-bulldogs/gonzaga-basketball-drew-timme-nba-start-brooklyn-nets[/URL]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Voyageur, post: 1060988, member: 17953"] I know people find it hard to believe that I don't believe in Doc Rivers as a HC. I'm going to cite something from the news today. It's about Drew Timme. The 6-10 swing man between power forward and center with the Nets. The guy the Bucks brought into camp then jettisoned because he wasn't producing the way he should despite the fact they didn't have time to work with him to improve facets of his game that would make him a decent NBA player. At the time, the Bucks were, and still are, hurting for a solid power forward/center to be used with the combo of Giannis/Lopez/Portis. The keep trying to find someone yet there he was, Timme, and they did not bother to work with him to improve his game to reach the Bucks roster. Signing him was a good decision, but how he was used, and pretty much shoved to the side even with the Herd in the G-League was pure stupidity. That's on Rivers because he just plain couldn't identify the level of talent that needed to be unlocked to develop him into a solid player for Milwaukee. The article even shows the poor utilization the Herd had with Timme, and the changes when he went to the Nets organization. The contrast is like night and day. It shows the ineptitude of Horst and Rivers in dealing with the future. Neither one really sees the development aspect that's needed to create consistency in winning. The home-grown talent idea that we see in Giannis just isn't in their view. Drew Timme is going to be a darned good NBA player, and quite frankly, the Bucks blew the opportunity of having the guy who could give the Bucks 8-10 years of quality play swinging between his two positions. This alone should be enough to show ownership how lousy their organization is run. Then there's the case of Ryan Rollins. Every time the kid came into the game during the early season, he showed a spark of brilliance on the court. Now, in a larger role, which should have come 3 months ago, we can see what he has to offer. He plays defense, can create offense and opportunities for others, and for his size, crashes the boards quite well, and is fast on his feet. He can go to the boards and still recover downcourt to play defense. Something I never see with Lillard. Then there's Trent and Porter. With both Giannis and Lillard out, along with Portis gone, they lit it up last night. This is what they can always bring to the table. Why in H does Rivers keep kowtowing to Lillard's theory that he has to be out there more to be productive? He isn't more productive because of it. He's less productive from a defensive standpoint, because he's not giving maximum effort, he's reserving his energy for later. That does not work in the NBA any longer. The game is so fast that no matter how good you may be on offense, you need the speed and legs to transition to defense so much faster than you did just 10 years ago. As an example, when you think back 10 to 15 years, at a situation where you were taking the ball out on your own end of the floor and there were 10 seconds left on the clock, you were going to have to hurry the shot. Today, they go end to end in 2.5 seconds and are going into a set play in another second and getting solid opportunities at that final bucket. Meanwhile, in Milwaukee, we're watching Lillard eating up the clock and then having to fire off a nearly impossible shot while double teamed, because that's what Doc called. They don't even have time to use a play because Lillard consumes all the time on the clock checking out the defense. Then there's the under-utlization of Porter and Trent. These two should be getting more time on the floor along with Rollins. This is on Rivers too. He's also done everything he can to destroy Kuzma's game. That too is on Rivers. The guy is not a good coach. I can guarantee you one thing. If I owned the Bucks, guys like Horst and Rivers wouldn't even be welcome in the stadium without buying a ticket. Neither one of them is really what they seem to think they are in their own minds. Think about the Timme situation. In the end, it will point out exactly what I'm talking about. And Timme and his capability is just starting to be untapped. Think Giannis and the painstaking journey and then realize Timme might well have been an even quicker trajectory to stardom. In fact, he just might have been the guy to positionally replace Giannis if he's traded or decides he's had enough of losing in Milwaukee. Like they say in Italy, "Qué será, será." qué será, será [URL unfurl="true"]https://athlonsports.com/college/gonzaga-bulldogs/gonzaga-basketball-drew-timme-nba-start-brooklyn-nets[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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