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<blockquote data-quote="OldSchool101" data-source="post: 1093032" data-attributes="member: 10086"><p>As ll really good points. I’ll admit I expected this last year to “pop” more. The Packers have a plethora of players that were 2nd year to 4th year capable starters. It’s an area where you count on growth overall, maybe not every last player, but as a unit for sure. Here we kinda fizzled in 2025 imo. We got zero from Lloyd for 2 straight years and that hurts.</p><p></p><p> We got some minimal fill in opportunities for Morgan, but I heard recently that he actually beat out Walker in Camp (I wasn’t aware of that) and Jordan was on schedule to take over LT last year.. well until he had a minor injury setback and they had to roll with the safer Rasheed approach and they don’t want musical chairs.</p><p></p><p>Hopper can’t seem to elevate off Teams, now some of that is relative to us contracting McDuffie, which puts him at best 4th in pecking order at iLB. Yet expectation for a Box LB as a top 80’s pick is higher than that imo. It just has to be.</p><p></p><p>The FIRST 2 draft sections of 2023 (Luke and Lucas brothers) have both shown flashes. Yet for 3rd year players are both missing a cylinder. They aren’t winning any races. Again, Lucas is buried behind Parsons and Gary and also did suffer a pretty substantial injury. Luke had his chance to shine and while he’s not bad, he’s also not living up to a top 40’s TE selection in year 3 either.</p><p></p><p>Travis Glover and Jacob Monk are excused. They were both season IR losses in their 2nd season. John Williams lost his Rookie season, but I expect he’s a medium high floor guy. Maybe just not past medium ceiling like Rasheed.</p><p></p><p>From 2025. Golden, Oliver, Savion, Belton. Kinda hard to grade in a Rookie season because of our style of ramping players. It’s not popular even at QB, but it’s 100% effective over the long term.</p><p></p><p>These seem like complaints. To a degree they are. However imo a complaint is also an opportunity. That’s a good size player list injected into the fray. It doesn’t even include our 2025 Free Agents maybe getting off their relative plateaus. We know Bsnks and Hobbs are capable but it’s gotta be more than projection now. It’s time to “Kevin Greene” up!! Not sure if they grasp it? But either has 1 or maybe 2 big seasons? into a deep playoff run? and their career takes a new trajectory. This is not a contract year but it is a major turning point year for both players if that makes sense? They either rise hard or fall hard in 2026. No inbetween.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="OldSchool101, post: 1093032, member: 10086"] As ll really good points. I’ll admit I expected this last year to “pop” more. The Packers have a plethora of players that were 2nd year to 4th year capable starters. It’s an area where you count on growth overall, maybe not every last player, but as a unit for sure. Here we kinda fizzled in 2025 imo. We got zero from Lloyd for 2 straight years and that hurts. We got some minimal fill in opportunities for Morgan, but I heard recently that he actually beat out Walker in Camp (I wasn’t aware of that) and Jordan was on schedule to take over LT last year.. well until he had a minor injury setback and they had to roll with the safer Rasheed approach and they don’t want musical chairs. Hopper can’t seem to elevate off Teams, now some of that is relative to us contracting McDuffie, which puts him at best 4th in pecking order at iLB. Yet expectation for a Box LB as a top 80’s pick is higher than that imo. It just has to be. The FIRST 2 draft sections of 2023 (Luke and Lucas brothers) have both shown flashes. Yet for 3rd year players are both missing a cylinder. They aren’t winning any races. Again, Lucas is buried behind Parsons and Gary and also did suffer a pretty substantial injury. Luke had his chance to shine and while he’s not bad, he’s also not living up to a top 40’s TE selection in year 3 either. Travis Glover and Jacob Monk are excused. They were both season IR losses in their 2nd season. John Williams lost his Rookie season, but I expect he’s a medium high floor guy. Maybe just not past medium ceiling like Rasheed. From 2025. Golden, Oliver, Savion, Belton. Kinda hard to grade in a Rookie season because of our style of ramping players. It’s not popular even at QB, but it’s 100% effective over the long term. These seem like complaints. To a degree they are. However imo a complaint is also an opportunity. That’s a good size player list injected into the fray. It doesn’t even include our 2025 Free Agents maybe getting off their relative plateaus. We know Bsnks and Hobbs are capable but it’s gotta be more than projection now. It’s time to “Kevin Greene” up!! Not sure if they grasp it? But either has 1 or maybe 2 big seasons? into a deep playoff run? and their career takes a new trajectory. This is not a contract year but it is a major turning point year for both players if that makes sense? They either rise hard or fall hard in 2026. No inbetween. [/QUOTE]
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