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Brett int myth or fact?

Discussion in 'All Other Team Discussions' started by Quientus, Jan 4, 2010.

  1. Quientus

    Quientus Oenophile

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    Career Statistics:

    Bart Starr GP 196 GS 168 / 94 W 57 L 6 T (0.560):
    1808/3149 Cmp% 57.4 / Yds 24718 / 152 Td 138 Int / Td vs Int 0.908 /
    Rate 80.5 / Yds/G 126.1

    Joe Montana GP 192 GS 162 / 117 W 47 L (0.722):
    3409/5391 Cmp% 63.2 / Yds 40551 / 273 Td 139 Int / Td vs Int 0.509 /
    Rate 92.3 / Yds/G 211.2

    Dan Marino GP 242 GS 240 / 147 W 93 L (0.613):
    4967/8358 Cmp% 59.4 / Yds 61361 / 420 Td 252 Int / Td vs Int 0.600 /
    Rate 86.4 / Yds/G 253.6

    Steve Young GP 169 GS 149 / 94 W 49 L (0.631):
    2667/4149 Cmp% 64.3 / Yds 33124 / 232 Td 107 Int / Td vs Int 0.461 /
    Rate 96.8 / Yds/G 196

    John Elway GP 234 GS 231 / 148 W 82 L 1 T (0.641):
    4123/7250 Cmp% 56.9 / Yds 51475 / 300 Td 226 Int / Td vs Int 0.753 /
    Rate 93.0 / Yds/G 215.8

    Kurt Warner GP 125 GS 101 / 57 W 44 L (0.564):
    2666/4070 Cmp% 65.5 / Yds 32344 / 208 Td 128 Int / Td vs Int 0.615 /
    Rate 93.7 / Yds/G 258.8

    Warner 2009 GP 16 GS 16 / 10 W 6 L (0.625):
    339/513 Cmp% 65.5 / Yds 3753 / 26 Td 14 Int / Td vs Int 0.538 /
    Rate 93.2 / Yds/G 250.2

    Peyton Manning GP 192 GS 176 / 117 W 59 L (0.665):
    4232/6531 Cmp% 64.8 / Yds 50128 / 366 Td 181 Int / Td vs Int 0.495 /
    Rate 95.2 / Yds/G 261.1

    Manning 2009 GP 16 GS 16 / 14 W 2 L (0.875):
    393/571 Cmp% 68.8 / Yds 4500 / 33 Td 16 Int / Td vs Int 0.485 /
    Rate 99.9 / Yds/G 281.3

    Brett Favre GP 289 GS 269 / 169 W 100 L (0.628 ):
    6083/9811 Cmp% 62.0 / Yds 69329 / 497 Td 317 Int / Td vs Int 0.638 /
    Rate 86.6 / Yds/G 239.9

    Favre 2009 GP 16 GS 16 / 12 W 4 L (0.750):
    363/531 Cmp% 68.4 / Yds 4202 / 33 Td 7 Int / Td vs Int 0.212 /
    Rate 107.2 / Yds/G 262.6

    Drew Brees GP 122 GS 106 / 55 W 51 L (0.519):
    2679/4164 Cmp% 64.8 / Yds 30646 / 202 Td 110 Int / Td vs Int 0.546/
    Rate 91.9 / Yds/G 251.2

    Brees 2009 GP 16 GS 15 / 13 W 3 L (0.867):
    363/514 Cmp% 64.8 / Yds 4388 / 34 Td 11 Int / Td vs Int 0.324 /
    Rate 109.6 / Yds/G 251.2

    Tom Brady GP 129 GS 111 / 87 W 24 L (0.784):
    2672/4218 Cmp% 63.3 / Yds 30844 / 225 Td 99 Int / Td vs Int 0.440 /
    Rate 93.3 / Yds/G 239.1

    Brady 2009 GP 16 GS 16 / 10 W 6 L (0.625):
    371/565 Cmp% 65.7 / Yds 4398 / 28 Td 13 Int / Td vs Int 0.464 /
    Rate 96.2 / Yds/G 274.9


    Johnny Unitas GP 211 GS 186 / 118 W 64 L 4 T (0.634):
    2830/5186 Cmp% 54.6 / Yds 40239 / 290 Td 256 Int / Td vs Int 0.883 /
    Rate 78.2/ Yds/G 190.7

    Joe Theismann GP 167 GS 124 / 77 W 47 L (0.621):
    2044/3602 Cmp% 56.7 / Yds 25206 / 160 Td 138 Int / Td vs Int 0.863 /
    Rate 77.4/ Yds/G 150.9

    Fran Tarkenton GP 246 GS 239 / 124 W 109 L 4 T (0.519):
    3686/6467 Cmp% 57.0 / Yds 47003 / 342 Td 266 Int / Td vs Int 0.778 /
    Rate 80.4/ Yds/G 191.1

    Troy Aikman GP 165 GS 165 / 94 W 71 L (0.570):
    2898/4715 Cmp% 61.5 / Yds 32942 / 165 Td 141 Int / Td vs Int 0.855 /
    Rate 81.6 / Yds/G 199.6

    Don Majkowski GP 93 GS 57 / 26 W 30 L 1 T (0.456):
    1056/1905 Cmp% 55.4 / Yds 12700 / 66 Td 67 Int / Td vs Int 1.015 /
    Rate 72.9 / Yds/G 136.6

    Ben Rothlisberger GP 87 GS 71 / 51 W 20 L (0.718 ):
    1526/2411 Cmp% 63.3 / Yds 19302 / 127 Td 81 Int / Td vs Int 0.638 /
    Rate 91.7 / Yds/G 221.9


    So if we list by interceptions (in terms of being an "interception machine") this is how the Quarterbacks would be listed (worst -first, to best - last);

    1) Bart Starr Td vs Int 0.908 - Retired
    2) John Elway Td vs Int 0.753 - Retired
    3) Brett Favre Td vs Int 0.638 - Active
    4) Kurt Warner Td vs Int 0.615 - Active
    5) Dan Marino Td vs Int 0.600 - Retired
    6) Drew Brees Td vs Int 0.546 -Active
    7) Joe Montana Td vs Int 0.509 - Retired
    8 ) Peyton Manning Td vs Int 0.495 - Active
    9) Steve Young Td vs Int 0.461 - Retired
    10) Tom Brady Td vs Int 0.440 - Active

    And just to mix in a few other names aswell:

    Johnny Unitas Td vs Int 0.883
    Joe Theismann Td vs Int 0.863
    Fran Tarkenton Td vs Int 0.778
    Troy Aikman Td vs Int 0.855
    Don Majkowski Td vs Int 1.015

    Ben Rothlisberger Td vs Int 0.638
    (same as Favre, - I guess "Big Ben" is an "Interception Machine" ?)


    Listed by Career, only active players:

    1) Brett Favre Td vs Int 0.638 (worst)
    2) Kurt Warner Td vs Int 0.615
    3) Drew Brees Td vs Int 0.546
    4) Peyton Manning Td vs Int 0.495
    5) Tom Brady Td vs Int 0.440 (best)

    Listed by this current season, only active players:

    1) Kurt Warner Td vs Int 0.538 (worst)
    2) Peyton Manning Td vs Int 0.485
    3) Tom Brady Td vs Int 0.464
    4) Drew Brees Td vs Int 0.324
    5) Brett Favre Td vs Int 0.212 (best)

    - Dang ! Manning is an "Interception Machine" !!!

    This is something that puzzles me, because I've never once heard anyone label John Elway, nor Bart Starr, Johnny Unitas, Joe Theismann for that matter, not to mention Troy Aikman as an "interception machine", however, if that is what Favre is, then the same must be applied to them ?

    Again, I reiterate, I'm not saying he doesn't have flaws in his game, however, that is how he plays, and have played for most of his career ... - It's part of what makes him so exiting to watch ...

    But to use simple-minded arguements, without looking at the stats in context nor making the effort to actually look them up to see if they actually substantiate your claim, just make those that use them look all the more foolish ...
     
  2. YoKramer

    YoKramer Cheesehead

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    Lets put those interceptions in the context of WTF WERE YOU THINKING THROWING THAT #$@&#%@ BALL TO THE 3 DEFENSIVE PLAYERS WHEN THE GAME IS ON THE LINE BRETT.


    It is all about context after all ;)
     
  3. Quientus

    Quientus Oenophile

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    Ofcourse :) - then again, I've never seen a team win a game without risking something ...
     
  4. Quientus

    Quientus Oenophile

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    - That is exactly what I've been advocating and saying all along ... - Yet whenever you and similar bring up stats, it seems to be "fact", but when I or other posters for that matter, use those same stats, - suddenly you want to dismiss them ? ...

    I'm sorry, but you can't have it both ways ...

    I don't put alot into stats alone, quite on the contrary, which should be quite evident if you look at what stats I'm referring to ...

    I did NOT say Favre didn't have alot of interceptions, however, I am contesting the "notion" that he is an "interception machine" as some of you claim ... - Again putting (your and similars) stats and arguement into context ...
     
  5. Murgen

    Murgen MechaPackzilla

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    Brett just tends to throw em at the WORST POSSIBLE MOMENT!!!

    He also owns the stat for most INTs ever by a QB. You forgot to add that.

    Yeah, Farve throws a lot of TDs, but when you also toss balls up for grabs like he would do in big games, it kind of negates em imo.
     
  6. Forget Favre

    Forget Favre Cheesehead

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    Hmmmmm....
    I noticed that you left off Aaron Rodgers from the current list.
    Where would he fit in?
     
  7. Jess

    Jess Movement!

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    All those greats and then........ Don Majkowski. I found that to be hilarious. Lol.

    Seriously, why is he on there?
     

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