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Brett Favre PACKER 4th Q comebacks

Discussion in 'Brett Favre Discussion' started by ivo610, Oct 28, 2011.

  1. ivo610

    ivo610 Cheesehead

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    A recent bar discussion I had with someone involved Brett Favre and his 4th quarter legend as mr comeback. I said without looking I couldnt think of one where the packers were losing in the 4th and he came back, other than 94 against the lions. Neither of us could.

    Thoughts?
    Is Brett Favre overrated as a comeback king? It seems like I can recall alot more games that brett favre blew in the 4th quarter than he won.

    And I remember the Bronco game in 07, but I dont believe they were ever losing in the 4th.
     
  2. Forget Favre

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    When this is brought up the first and only player I think of is Joe Montana.
    I'm stumped to think of anyone else and I'm not being biased.
     
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  3. neilfii

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    Seems like the earlier QB for the Broncos (Elway) was one of the best at 4th quarter comebacks, and it pains me to say that because I am anything but an Elway fan.
     
  4. Bogart

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    I've heard arguments that he's had 43 career comeback wins, but I don't think I ever remember that many. Maybe Montana or Elway had over 20 comebacks but definitely not Favre.

    I remember him "coming back" with a tied game and winning it, but nothing like coming back down 17-24 points to win it.

    Montana is the comeback king. Seen him come back and win the 49ers a game that was 28-10 at half time.
     
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    Thats a statistic that I was never impressed with. If you are good, then you don't need to come back. Or, why do you only start playing your best when you have to?
     
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    For what it's worth, Pro Football Reference has run some interesting analysis of QB comebacks and game winning drives. For their career game-winning drives leaders they put Favre at #3 (behind Manning & Marino), and #6 for comebacks (behind Manning, Marino, Elway, Testaverde and Tarkenton).
    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/comebacks_career.htm
    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/gwd_career.htm
    Some of the methodology here: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=5521
    Surprisingly, Jake Plummer had more career game-winning drives than Montana or Unitas, and almost as many comebacks.
     
  10. whoartthou

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    yep. I think "come-backs" are overrated
     
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    They probably are, as with many other QB stats.
    It's funny how a remembrance of an important or iconic game or two can get in the way of facts.
    But regarding the case of Favre and people's perceptions about comebacks, any stats about how many or how few he had is indeed an overrated factor. Just like the blown games w/the interceptions--doesn't matter in the context of everything else career-wise--he's still getting into the HOF on the first ballot. And that's an honor which I think most players do not think is overrated...
     
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    The thing with comebacks is, why were the behind in the first place? Did the QB throw a pick 6? Each one would have to be put into perspective.
     
  15. PackersRS

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    Exactly.

    They make a lot of Peyton Manning's comeback against the Patriots in 06, but they disregard his awful first half where he threw a pick 6.

    Comeback wins are incredibly overrated.
     

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