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Also he didnt want to be a Packer


Brett and the broadcast guys | National Football Post

I hope my column on Friday explaining some of the issues behind the divorce between the Packers and Brett Favre gave insight to readers. After reading the comments, I’m reminded of the intelligence, knowledge and passion of our readers. Through his desire to return to play -- which should have been no surprise to anyone, especially the Packers -- Brett put the team in a difficult position that was exacerbated by his popularity and previous treatment in Green Bay. The Packers handled it in a way that was best for them, leading to a messy divorce. The latest chapter of the story ensued Sunday, with Brett doing an admirable job of maintaining control of his emotions and his game in leading the Vikings to a win.

During the Fox telecast, Troy Aikman said with some certainty that perhaps Brett never really wanted to play for the Packers again after his brief retirement last year. That meshes with some of the issues discussed here Friday, knowing the parties involved. Hearing it from Troy gives it added credence. I will explain.

Brett and the TV guys

There’s a reason so many of the national television broadcasters speak in reverential terms about Favre beyond his accomplishments on the field. They’ve come to know him so well from the generous amounts of time they have with him, for reasons that may not appear so obvious.

In my time with the Packers, when we arrived in a city as the visiting team on the afternoon before the game, our public relations staff would immediately meet the crew working the game for Fox, CBS, ESPN, ABC or NBC. Their producers typically gave our staff their list of three or four players they wanted to interview in preparation for the broadcast. The other names on the list would change week to week, but it always included Brett, no matter what our record, where our game was, etc. And Brett was usually the last one to be interviewed by the broadcast team.

While most of the requested players went for their 10-15-minute interviews and were off to do other things, Brett would stay and talk to the analysts sometimes for an hour, or two or three or four, even to the point where the broadcasters would kick him out so they could go get some dinner.

There were a couple of reasons Brett hung around so long. First and foremost, Brett had nowhere to go but back to his hotel room. It’s not like he could walk around the streets of a city and grab dinner somewhere. It’s not like he could hang out in the lobby and chat up memorabilia-toting fans. And after his longtime roommate, Frank Winters, retired, Brett just stayed in a single room (under an alias, of course, and there were some good ones).

The other reason Brett hung out in the broadcast meetings so long is that he just loved talking football with those guys. He especially reveled in sitting back and telling stories with people like John Madden, Matt Millen, Phil Simms and Troy Aikman. Some of the meetings with Madden are legendary for their candor and ***** humor.

I remember seeing Brett walk out of a meeting three hours after he went in, and he was laughing to himself. I asked what it was about and he said he was just laughing with Madden and telling him about his Uncle Rube (I’ll spare you the details). Sure enough, in the latter stages of the broadcast the next night, there’s Madden talking about how Brett gets some of his toughness from his Uncle Rube.

So if Aikman said something enlightening about Favre, which he did, it came from Favre on Saturday night in the Vikings hotel, with Brett ensconced in a production meeting as always, talking football with the broadcast team.

Didn’t want to be a Packer

Aikman’s comment jibes with the feelings about the discussions with the Vikings that riled Packers management so much. As detailed here Friday, Brett never warmed to the management style of GM Ted Thompson. Beyond the stilted communication, Brett felt he received lip service from Ted about the team making runs at veteran players but didn’t actually pursue them, as that was certainly not his preferred style for building a team.

Brett had no business making personnel decisions for the team but felt his suggestions had merit. He would bend my ear for hours about getting Randy Moss or other veteran players who became available. Whenever Brett would make these comments, I would tell him to trust the young guys we had such as Greg Jennings. Brett replied that he didn’t have time to wait; I would tell him he didn’t have to wait.

After so many tirades about how we weren’t going after this guy or that guy in free agency or trade, I would say to Brett, “What part of Ted Thompson’s philosophy do you not understand?” He would just shrug and walk away.

Brett wanted a ready-made veteran team for the longest time. That’s what the Jets sold him last year, and that’s what the Vikings were selling this (and last?) year. Now he’s where he has wanted to be for 16 months and, at the moment, thriving.
 

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This pretty much sums up what I knew right from the start. Brett knew that sticking in Green Bay meant having to work 3 times harder to achieve the same results. That isn't necessarily a problem when you're 23 and hungry, but when you're 40 and you've made people hundreds of millions of dollars, you're suddenly not so hungry any longer.

I think if Ted would have thrown Brett a bone or two and maybe had done it in a way that would teach Brett that free agents aren't always the answer, that Brett would have eventually understood.

What Brett was after was not 10 FA's every year and find two or three that stick. Maybe a Hutch on the O-line or Moss at WR - players that ABSOLUTELY are worth their weights in gold.

This is really old ground that is being covered and it will end up making Aikman look like some grand soothsayer - when actually this information has been around for ages.
 

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Well ... In Aikmans defense ... - Aikman did sustain alot of hits and concussions during his career ... - So that might be a reason why he is "airing" it out now ... because to him - that might be (new) news after all ...

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This was also mentioned on WSSP on Friday afternoon 1250 am Milwaukee

They had on the Vikings t.e and he poised the question to the guys on WSSP

Was Brett forced out, or did he want out?

so now you have Troy, a current player and now Andrew stating all this..

Smoke there is fire
 

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Big deal...

Brett didn't want to work for a self-involved, self-important, egotistical a**hole who's plan he KNEW wasn't going to work, and hasn't worked!

What's your problem with that?

Ted Thompson's philosophy has failed, and so has Ted Thompson..

Why should he stick around when he SAW THE WRITING ON THE WALL..???

HE WAS FORCED OUT BY THE INEPTITUDE OF TED THOMPSON....

OL' POLAR BEAR GAVE HIM NO CHOICE.

(Why can't you people see this...are you blinded from wearing your Green and Gold googles...??)
 
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Big deal...

Brett didn't want to work for a self-involved, self-important, egotistical a**hole who's plan he KNEW wasn't going to work, and hasn't worked!

What's your problem with that?

Ted Thompson's philosophy has failed, and so has Ted Thompson..

Why should he stick around when he SAW THE WRITING ON THE WALL..???

HE WAS FORCED OUT BY THE INEPTITUDE OF TED THOMPSON....

OL' POLAR BEAR GAVE HIM NO CHOICE.

(Why can't you people see this...are you blinded from wearing your Green and Gold googles...??)

Pack66, again the ego thing..I been waiting over a month, stop it or produce it

Ego huh?

I would agree if Ted started to go after free agents after Brett was gone, he has not..We were told he wasnt doing the free agent thing to **** off Brett so Brett will want out..Yeah......ummmm yeahhh, he really goes after free agents now eh?

In fact ALL the things that is/was said about Ted pushing Brett out the door, he still does..I guess his ego is trying to force out Rodgers too?

If Brett really just wanted out, be a man and say trade me!

Wait.........He said that in 06 I think but as it hit the media, he denied it..

I will never argue with anyone that says Brett was right in wanting out if he didnt agree with the way Ted handles business..

But be honest about it..Dont make up all this stuff to make it look like you wanted back...
 

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Big deal...

Brett didn't want to work for a self-involved, self-important, egotistical a**hole who's plan he KNEW wasn't going to work, and hasn't worked!

What's your problem with that?

Ted Thompson's philosophy has failed, and so has Ted Thompson..

Why should he stick around when he SAW THE WRITING ON THE WALL..???

HE WAS FORCED OUT BY THE INEPTITUDE OF TED THOMPSON....

OL' POLAR BEAR GAVE HIM NO CHOICE.

(Why can't you people see this...are you blinded from wearing your Green and Gold googles...??)


yep, i'd definitely count a game off the superbowl as not working.
no doubt you'll point out the two losing seasons. just saying it HAS worked.
 

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Yeah...

Thanks to FAVRE it did...(He covered up all of the inadequacies that you're seeing now!)

Round and round....

(You guys will never see the truth...)
 

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The whole team was playing well in '07. The pass rush was dominant. The Packers just don't have it anymore. KGB was playing well as a pass rush specialist with Jenkins and Kampman starting and all of the D-Tackles could play. Hawk was having his best year, Barnett was playing lights out, and the secondary was dominant until teams figured out that all you had to do to beat Harris was move your receiver a little bit before the play started. The receiving corps was playing great, and after about half of the season we found a running game. Favre was not the only reason the Packers were good that season.
 
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Yeah...

Thanks to FAVRE it did...(He covered up all of the inadequacies that you're seeing now!)

Round and round....

(You guys will never see the truth...)

Maybe we will this year..

But again the way it is starting to unravel now, Brett is looking like a player that wanted out but didnt have the balls to just say it..

And before it is said...


He had EVERY right to want out if he felt Ted wasnt doing enough to improve the team...

Just be a man and say I WANT OUT and not **** everyone around to be "forced" out
 

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Yeah...

Thanks to FAVRE it did...(He covered up all of the inadequacies that you're seeing now!)

Round and round....

(You guys will never see the truth...)
Yeah, when you say that Favre by himself covered the inadequacies of the team, we'll never see the "truth". Because he sure couldn't do it in 05...
 

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Maybe we will this year..

But again the way it is starting to unravel now, Brett is looking like a player that wanted out but didnt have the balls to just say it..

And before it is said...


He had EVERY right to want out if he felt Ted wasnt doing enough to improve the team...

Just be a man and say I WANT OUT and not **** everyone around to be "forced" out
NO HE DIDN'T HAVE THE RIGHT! Barry Sanders retired, when he couldn't win. He didn't asked to be traded, he didn't asked to be released.

I totally agree that he should say if he wanted out, however, but he should've sticked with the team and complained at Mark Murphy and the media. Don't you think fans would've listened????????
 

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NO HE DIDN'T HAVE THE RIGHT! Barry Sanders retired, when he couldn't win. He didn't asked to be traded, he didn't asked to be released.

I totally agree that he should say if he wanted out, however, but he should've sticked with the team and complained at Mark Murphy and the media. Don't you think fans would've listened????????


I think it's pretty evident that Favre, as well as other "veterans" did lobby and tried to get management to look more into *also* be looking at the free agency market more - in terms of acquring reinforcements, prior to this "debacle" taking place ...


On the other hand, I think the reaction, had he done what you suggested, would have been the same ... In fact I think it would have been worse, had it been with Mark Murphy and not TT really ... - Come on ... - Regardless of whether or not it was with Murphy or TT, the end result would probably have been the same ... just like the out-come ...
 

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This whole situation is a total debacle. This was a no-win situation for anyone. Yes Favre is winning right now but his legacy will be questioned for a while. The Packers had a little bit of mud thrown on them as well through this.
 

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I think it's pretty evident that Favre, as well as other "veterans" did lobby and tried to get management to look more into *also* be looking at the free agency market more - in terms of acquring reinforcements, prior to this "debacle" taking place ...


On the other hand, I think the reaction, had he done what you suggested, would have been the same ... In fact I think it would have been worse, had it been with Mark Murphy and not TT really ... - Come on ... - Regardless of whether or not it was with Murphy or TT, the end result would probably have been the same ... just like the out-come ...
Yeah, maybe... I'm being an hypocrite here, discussing this. I'm just saying one thing is lobbying, another thing is complaining publicly. It could damage his reputation, but how can his reputation be any more damaged than trying to retire every year and playing for the worst enemy, or one of the worst? I don't know, my last post about this subject...
 

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And what's your conspiracy theory regarding Favre this time, LT?

I mean, C'mon...to me, Andrew Brandt's sounding like a little b*tch in a soap opera that the Packer faithful radio DJ's are trying to stir up...

How is that different than ESPN?
 
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And what's your conspiracy theory regarding Favre this time, LT?

I mean, C'mon...to me, Andrew Brandt's sounding like a little b*tch in a soap opera that the Packer faithful radio DJ's are trying to stir up...

How is that different than ESPN?

I take all the information I hear, find and read and form an opinion...Then base my "theories" on educated thoughts..
 

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