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<blockquote data-quote="highlander2190" data-source="post: 411985" data-attributes="member: 5837"><p>This probably seemed like the most ridiculous article to just about anyone. As a pats fan I know it was stretching a lot in order to make a case for Brady. Rodgers is still without a doubt MVP, and Brady can't take that away from him even if he tried. At the same time I feel I got the sense there is a giant misperception about the Patriots this season. The way people have shot down this article saying that it is complete bunk (which there is some garbage in there), seems to indicate people don't really know a lot about the Patriots this season. As a pats fan i'd like to clarify what pats followers really mean when they try to make arguments for Brady over Rodgers.</p><p> </p><p>1. The O-line Argument: I understand that both the Packers and Pats have had injuries at O-line this year. Its tough for any quarterback to deal with that kind of change in his protection. One thing the media has completely missed out on about the pats O-line is that Brady has had 4 different centers this season. The pats pulled a guy off the street for their last game to fill in for one of the most important positions in the game. Other things you don't hear is how those so called pro bowlers aren't really playing to their pro bowl level this year. If you go back to mid season you would see the Pats 0-line being very exposed, it has caused a fair amount of concern for pats fans, praying that there isn't another injury like 2008. That legendary pass protection Brady has is not there this year.</p><p> </p><p>2. The Better Weapons Argument: When this argument is made a lot of the time it seems like pats fans are trying to say we have no weapons. That is false we have probably the best TE in the game and Wes Welker. To clarify this, you would of had to of not only watched the majority of pats game but also seen a fair amount of the packers games too. I have watched a good amount of packers games this season and have been in envy of what some of your receivers can do. Some of the catches have been just unbelievable, between the one hand mid air catches, to the tip toeing line catches. Pats fans see that and we are envious of it because we haven't had a receiver who can do that since Randy Moss. You can't throw a high ball to Wes for him to make the play over the taller defender. Our TE's don't make tip toe catches at the sidelines. We don't have a receiver who can stretch the field. Brady has a lot less room for error with his receivers and most of the time less space to work with. And the stats show how much Brady depends on his #1 and 2. Welkers and Gronks stats are ridiculously high, and when you look at Finley, Nelson, and Jennings's stats they are all not only high, but also evenly spread between them. The drop off in stats between Welker and Branch or Gronk and Hernandez are staggering, both Welker and Gronk nearly have double the stats of Branch and Hernandez. It's even sadder for us knowing we don't have a reliable 3rd receiver we can switch in. Ochocinco's stats are comparable to Stark's receiving stats, difference is at least Starks catches half the balls thrown to him.</p><p> </p><p>3. The Stats Argument: This is the only thing you can't argue unless you want to go full homer in the argument. Rodgers has the better stats than Brady that is 100% undeniable. Yes Brady has had bad games this season, Rodgers hasn't.Rodgers is a step ahead of Brady in the stat compartment, and that will be what will determine the MVP at the end of the year is the stats. The Packers will most likely go 16-0 and the Pats will be 13-3 and everyone will argue that you can't give MVP to the guy who lost 3 games over the guy who lost none. Stats most certainly make the strongest case for who is MVP.</p><p> </p><p>In all honesty, I don't think a single Patriot fan wants to see Brady with the MVP, and would be okay seeing Rodgers receive it. Brady is without a doubt the MVP for the pats and without him we would be fighting with the Bengals for a wildcard spot at the moment. All we are praying for is that we can somehow win 3 playoff games this year. Anyway that's my rant taken care of, I wish you guys the best of luck with the rest of the season, as a pats fan I will tell you it gets incredibly nerve racking from week 16 and onward. Hitting that goal of perfection is no easy task. If things don't pan out at the end of the season, you will always be welcomed by pats fans who will know your pain quite well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="highlander2190, post: 411985, member: 5837"] This probably seemed like the most ridiculous article to just about anyone. As a pats fan I know it was stretching a lot in order to make a case for Brady. Rodgers is still without a doubt MVP, and Brady can't take that away from him even if he tried. At the same time I feel I got the sense there is a giant misperception about the Patriots this season. The way people have shot down this article saying that it is complete bunk (which there is some garbage in there), seems to indicate people don't really know a lot about the Patriots this season. As a pats fan i'd like to clarify what pats followers really mean when they try to make arguments for Brady over Rodgers. 1. The O-line Argument: I understand that both the Packers and Pats have had injuries at O-line this year. Its tough for any quarterback to deal with that kind of change in his protection. One thing the media has completely missed out on about the pats O-line is that Brady has had 4 different centers this season. The pats pulled a guy off the street for their last game to fill in for one of the most important positions in the game. Other things you don't hear is how those so called pro bowlers aren't really playing to their pro bowl level this year. If you go back to mid season you would see the Pats 0-line being very exposed, it has caused a fair amount of concern for pats fans, praying that there isn't another injury like 2008. That legendary pass protection Brady has is not there this year. 2. The Better Weapons Argument: When this argument is made a lot of the time it seems like pats fans are trying to say we have no weapons. That is false we have probably the best TE in the game and Wes Welker. To clarify this, you would of had to of not only watched the majority of pats game but also seen a fair amount of the packers games too. I have watched a good amount of packers games this season and have been in envy of what some of your receivers can do. Some of the catches have been just unbelievable, between the one hand mid air catches, to the tip toeing line catches. Pats fans see that and we are envious of it because we haven't had a receiver who can do that since Randy Moss. You can't throw a high ball to Wes for him to make the play over the taller defender. Our TE's don't make tip toe catches at the sidelines. We don't have a receiver who can stretch the field. Brady has a lot less room for error with his receivers and most of the time less space to work with. And the stats show how much Brady depends on his #1 and 2. Welkers and Gronks stats are ridiculously high, and when you look at Finley, Nelson, and Jennings's stats they are all not only high, but also evenly spread between them. The drop off in stats between Welker and Branch or Gronk and Hernandez are staggering, both Welker and Gronk nearly have double the stats of Branch and Hernandez. It's even sadder for us knowing we don't have a reliable 3rd receiver we can switch in. Ochocinco's stats are comparable to Stark's receiving stats, difference is at least Starks catches half the balls thrown to him. 3. The Stats Argument: This is the only thing you can't argue unless you want to go full homer in the argument. Rodgers has the better stats than Brady that is 100% undeniable. Yes Brady has had bad games this season, Rodgers hasn't.Rodgers is a step ahead of Brady in the stat compartment, and that will be what will determine the MVP at the end of the year is the stats. The Packers will most likely go 16-0 and the Pats will be 13-3 and everyone will argue that you can't give MVP to the guy who lost 3 games over the guy who lost none. Stats most certainly make the strongest case for who is MVP. In all honesty, I don't think a single Patriot fan wants to see Brady with the MVP, and would be okay seeing Rodgers receive it. Brady is without a doubt the MVP for the pats and without him we would be fighting with the Bengals for a wildcard spot at the moment. All we are praying for is that we can somehow win 3 playoff games this year. Anyway that's my rant taken care of, I wish you guys the best of luck with the rest of the season, as a pats fan I will tell you it gets incredibly nerve racking from week 16 and onward. Hitting that goal of perfection is no easy task. If things don't pan out at the end of the season, you will always be welcomed by pats fans who will know your pain quite well. [/QUOTE]
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