Bears Studs n Duds

[Cornelius Weems]

Lafleur has to be fired…. Haven’t won a division title for years and can’t make second half adjustments it’s time to move on… they lost 5 frickin games in a row I’ll give some grace for the Vikings game because it didn’t matter. But it has to be on him some major changes needed. Depth is an issue and our corners blow. McManus can pack his bags too. But dang man it falls on lafleur and execution like Kevin Greene once said.. “It’s Time”

Thankfully MLF doesn't have to be fired since he's no longer under contract, we just better NOT extend him. I don't want to see MLF ever on our sidelines again, it's been 7 seasons of this and to end it on 5 game losing streak is a very low note. Some were confused by the hire and it's bit us really hard now, no other team would find this acceptable and neither should we.

 

[shockerx]

Thankfully MLF doesn't have to be fired since he's no longer under contract, we just better NOT extend him. I don't want to see MLF ever on our sidelines again, it's been 7 seasons of this and to end it on 5 game losing streak is a very low note. Some were confused by the hire and it's bit us really hard now, no other team would find this acceptable and neither should we.

he has a year left

 

[Heyjoe4]

Bears QB Williams was upset, angry and basically pushed himself and his team to victory- visible leadership. Rams victory, Stafford comment to Addams

Matthew Stafford to Davante Adams: ‘Let’s go snatch these guys' hearts’​

Wonder what Love said in similar manner ? Nada, he sat alone on the bench, failed to say anything to any teammate that was visible and when he got into the huddle, well everyone saw it.

Hi David. I noticed last night how energetic Williams is with his teammates on the sideline. I like that.

I do think Love is a v good QB but he is not the leader of the team. He plays with little to no emotion, and as you note, he sits by himself on the sideline when the defense is playing.

A change at HC is warranted. There is a lot of talent on the team. Time to find someone who can out it all together.

 

[OkieCheesehead]

I like this post Okie. I was going to pick MLF as both the stud (1H) and dud (2H), but you did a better job.

How much longer do we have to put up with such mediocre playoff performance? I know we should be happy we've had a competitive team, and two SBs within 30 years. That's not chopped liver.

It's also not the point, because the team could have done so much more. Even with the extensive injuries, the Packers had the Bears on the ropes last night, and let them off, again.

It will be interesting to see what, if anything, is done with MLF. I'll say for now it's time for a change at HC, but that feels like a knee-jerk reaction after the loss.

A few deep breaths will......... not help today.

Exactly. It’s the same thing year after year. The organization is becoming more and more complacent. For them, making the playoffs is good enough. I wouldn’t be shocked if they extended MLFs contract. McCarthy had to absolutely crash and burn before they fired him. Ugh, this season just made me sick to my stomach

 

[Cornelius Weems]

he has a year left

Cool, then fire his useless a** then!

 

[rmontro]

Right now I agree, they need a change at HC. It's come up before, but the 2H last night put it in ink. Just baffling that a team could play so well and then go into a locker room and vanish into the night.

What are they doing in there, smoking a doobie? And if not, maybe they should, just to change it up. Whatever they're doing isn't working,

 

[Heyjoe4]

Exactly. It’s the same thing year after year. The organization is becoming more and more complacent. For them, making the playoffs is good enough. I wouldn’t be shocked if they extended MLFs contract. McCarthy had to absolutely crash and burn before they fired him. Ugh, this season just made me sick to my stomach

MLF is very slow to change. He kept Joe Barry way too long (well' shouldn't have hired hi in the first place) and Bisaccia just never got a grip on STs.

If Policy is gonna whack MLF, it will be soon. MLF's is time is up IMO. The HC job in GB would be the mostb sought-after in the NFL, meaning the Packers can get whoever they want.

If/when MLF is gone, does anyone have any HC candidates? I'm thinking Hafley.

 

[chemist]

Love played a great game, again. On that last drive, the drop by Reed was at the worst possible time, and even Doubs dropped one I think. But Love threw a near-perfect ball. The drop by Watson was just a well-defended play. What made it more amazing is that the Bears knew he had to throw. There are some problems with the team and especially coaching. Love is lot the problem - not even close.

I think he had 4 TD passes and zero INTs. The bigger issue is maximizing his talent, and the talent of the team overall (without injuries).

Tom Silverstein of the JS actually wrote a good, balanced article this am on the need to make a change at HC.

If there ever was a time for Love to throw up one of his sky ball passes he's noted for the last play of the game was it. Just find a place where you have some receivers in the EZ and make it a jump ball play. Instead he threw a line drive the was very close to the ground when it got to the EZ.
Not saying Love didnt play well...he did , so that was good to see.....anyway Im good with the way the season ended....gives policy more reason to find a new leader who knows how to win the big, important games .

 

[scooter_1954]

What i saw last night was an embarrassment of poor coaching and execution. An Interception on 4th and long costing us 25 yds of field position, TWO missed FGs and A PAT, foolish unnecessary roughness penalty, a ludicrous kickoff return permitted in a crucial situation giving the Bears a short field, false start on 3rd and long leading to a missed FG, dropped passes in critical situations, a delay of game coming out of a timeout. I've had enough of LaFleur!

 

[rmontro]

If there ever was a time for Love to throw up one of his sky ball passes he's noted for the last play of the game was it. Just find a place where you have some receivers in the EZ and make it a jump ball play. Instead he threw a line drive the was very close to the ground when it got to the EZ.

Yeah, whatever happened to those Hail Marys Rodgers used to be known for?

 

[ExpatPacker]

I was for keeping Lafleur as HC up until today. I am no longer. There's only so many times a team chokes in a big game before it becomes a pattern, and under MLF that's what has happened. Last night you could lay the blame on McManus, but even with that, I am so sick of seeing this team collapse in the 2nd half and that's as much on the HC as anybody. It's become part of the Packer DNA under Lafleur. The fans know it, the players know it.

Time to find a new HC and change things around here.

 

[lambeaulambo]

Studs:

Watson - stretched the field and played w reckless abandon. You cannot lose sight of his value.

Golden - young and streaky. Really can add other elements to this offense.

Love - his performance was very good overall, but... he has the power to recognize poor play calls at the beginning of the 2nd half and if he knows a more effective version should check out and run the play he thinks works and LEAD.

Duds:

MLF - the 2nd half playcalling on offense was playing not to lose and being too cautious with a big lead. Holmgren is the anti - Lafluer. He stepped on teams hard when up big. This is now MLF's moniker, cannot CALL a complete game on offense.

Bisaccia - vaya con dios

McManus - a regular season kicker too...ugh...he was disappointed and he should be.

O Line - could not move a D line that was vulnerable to the run at all. Dumbfounded.

Officiating - two or three helmet to helmet no calls. Phantom grounding calls. lopsided home cooking.

This L is squarely on inept offensive playcalling at the very beginning of half 2. Thats MLF. His seat is hot right now. The replacement options are either known and leary or unknown and worth a look at.

I have to keep asking myself what if. You put Parsons Wyatt Kraft Tom Jenkins Lloyd on the field in this game what happens. Patience to get the team intact is how short? 2 years. In that time Chicago is only going to improve IMO. In my gut MLF gets one last pass but the extension should be no more than 3 years. Hafley is a Head Coach why? I think he just showed several teams that more time is needed to elevate his status. Special Teams is atrocious. I see a below .500 team if these injuries to major contributors linger and are given their true recovery time. This loss hurt real bad and the future looks iffy at best next season.

 

[milani]

First kick was long distance in cold wind. Extremely high difficulty. Missed XP was a poor hold by Whelan. He put the ball down about 2-3" too far to the right. Third one was all McManus. None of the are the reason we lost.

Certainly were a large part of it. Offense and defense are affected by the opponent. 95 % of the time placekicking is not. Santos did not miss in the same conditions. And his team prevailed.

 

[milani]

I was for keeping Lafleur as HC up until today. I am no longer. There's only so many times a team chokes in a big game before it becomes a pattern, and under MLF that's what has happened. Last night you could lay the blame on McManus, but even with that, I am so sick of seeing this team collapse in the 2nd half and that's as much on the HC as anybody. It's become part of the Packer DNA under Lafleur. The fans know it, the players know it.

Time to find a new HC and change things around here.

The inability in crunch time to succeed is damning. The Bears are good but they are not that good. The Niners beat them in crunch time and the Lions did not fall into their trap.

 

[tynimiller]

Bears QB Williams was upset, angry and basically pushed himself and his team to victory- visible leadership. Rams victory, Stafford comment to Addams

Matthew Stafford to Davante Adams: ‘Let’s go snatch these guys' hearts’​

Wonder what Love said in similar manner ? Nada, he sat alone on the bench, failed to say anything to any teammate that was visible and when he got into the huddle, well everyone saw it.

If someone thinks Love is the problem I’m sorry I’d recommend an appointment for a brain scan.

 

[milani]

Don’t forget about Gutey. He brought all those soft guys here and corners that can’t cover

Gute made every effort to find players. He went after Parsons like Wolf went after Reggie White. I look at the Rams and they mirror us quite a bit. They had kicker problems, young players, injuries, and they have lost some big games at crunch time. But they appear to be coached at a higher level. Yesterday, they could have choked. They did not.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Studs: First Half Packers

Duds: Second Half Packers, MLF, Bisaccia, Hafley and McManAss

How do you win games? Constant in game adjustments to what the other team is doing. Our coaching staff does not understand this principle. I could almost hear MLF on the sidelines saying; "Why isn't this working, it worked in the 1st half?"

This game kind of sums up how I feel about MLF. He has a very good offensive mind and he brought the team into Chicago prepared and attacked them with precision in the first half. Chicago goes into the locker room, refocuses, makes adjustments and MLF trots back out there for the 2nd half, thinking that nothing needs to change, because why should it, the Bears are doing everything he thought they would.

We need a coaching staff that knows what to do in every moment, knows how to react to the other team. Instead Matt and his staff get caught, standing there staring into the headlights of the other team.

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[milani]

Studs: First Half Packers

Duds: Second Half Packers, MLF, Bisaccia, Hafley and McManAss

How do you win games, constant in game adjustments to what the other team is doing. Our coaching staff does not understand this principle. I could almost hear MLF on the sidelines saying; "Why isn't this working, it worked in the 1st half?"

This game kind of sums up how I feel about MLF. He has a very good offensive mind and he brought the team into Chicago prepared and attacked them with precision in the first half. Chicago goes into the locker room, refocuses, makes adjustments and MLF trots back out there for the 2nd half, thinking that nothing needs to change, because why should it, the Bears are doing everything he thought they would.

We need a coaching staff that knows what to do in every moment, knows how to react to the other team. Instead Matt and his staff get caught, standing there staring into the headlights of the other team.

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The run game never got going enough. Too many 0 and 1 yard plays. Too vanilla with a bad OL. Bears are not a great run defense. Something has to change.

 

[gopkrs]

What bugs me is you could predict exactly what was going to happen. I knew the Bears would get that two point conversion, never doubted it for a second.

Why did the Packers supposedly emphasize creating takeaways during training camp, but the Bears leads the league in them while the Packers rank near the bottom? But consider this: Aacwon the takeaway battle in this game, +2. But we still managed to lose the game in the ugliest manner possible.

Actually though, the two interceptions were worthless and one was definitely worse than just knocking it down.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

If someone thinks Love is the problem I’m sorry I’d recommend an appointment for a brain scan.

I was on another Packer fan site after the game and a few "fans" were saying the same thing. One insisting that the Packers trade Love and sign Willis. Of course he had no response as to how the Packers would deal with the $98.4M dead cap hit created by trading Love. Not to mention how much new cap would signing Willis add?

I am fine with casual fans getting upset and being all mad, but when they offer up no solutions other than "fire everyone" or even worse, unviable ones, it tells you a lot about them.

 

[tynimiller]

I was on another Packer fan site after the game and a few "fans" were saying the same thing. One insisting that the Packers trade Love and sign Willis. Of course he had no response as to how the Packers would deal with the $98.4M dead cap hit created by trading Love. Not to mention how much new cap would signing Willis add?

I am fine with casual fans getting upset and being all mad, but when they offer up no solutions other than "fire everyone" or even worse, unviable ones, it tells you a lot about them.

Yup

 

[gopkrs]

I don't know why anyone says LaFlower has a great offensive mind. I watched him try to run into a stacked box the 2nd half just to prove a point I believe. **** him.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

The run game never got going enough. Too many 0 and 1 yard plays. Too vanilla with a bad OL. Bears are not a great run defense. Something has to change.

Running right at that Bears interior defense is no way to establish the run game. While I am not a huge fan of the jet sweep, MLF ran it early and it was a big success, Reed gained 14 yards. That was the last time MLF ran it. Why?

I also want to know why MLF seems to refuse to intentionally roll Love out very often? He completed some big passes last night doing so. Making him sit in that pocket that was almost non-existent in the 2nd half? Why? Take the bubble wrap off Love, especially in a playoff game and use his legs. Love ran the ball only once last night, picked up 11 yards.

 

[Packers4ever]

Duds: An offense that went 3 and out 3 x beginning the 2nd half that could not put the ball in the end zone at end of 1st half and then ST missed field goal. McManus, DB's (again), OL in 2nd half that could not run, pass block and Love who made bad passes (multiple times in 2nd half), failed to get the ball hiked in time AFTER a timeout, a fumbled snap on last play of game. You cannot leave your D out on the field against any good team 3x times in a row and then expect them to have gas at the end of the game. Is J Harbaugh available along with a new GM????? and maybe give Willis a shot at QB1 next year.

Agree 100%, the defense was worn out, the offense , handled by MLF 3 and out 3 times , MLF should be concentrating on the team and not be the play caller for the offense
true the kicker missed 3 FG but it should have never gotten to that with a 21-3 lead at half time

 

[Packers4ever]

I don't know why anyone says LaFlower has a great offensive mind. I watched him try to run into a stacked box the 2nd half just to prove a point I believe. **** him.

MLF is not a great offensive mind, therefore he should give that job to someone else , this is one of the reasons play calling gets stale toward the end of the game most of the time against quality teams