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<blockquote data-quote="HatestheEagles084" data-source="post: 13882" data-attributes="member: 180"><p>and like i've emphasized before, you're either negative, positive, or, like I am...REALISTIC</p><p></p><p>pro's and con's:</p><p></p><p>CON: No major help was added for our defensive line, no front seven talent was drafted</p><p>PRO: Hunger on the defensive line, the two fat bums--Hunt and Jackson, it seems like they are making it their duty to screw themselves out of starting jobs...enter Cullen Jenkins, James Lee, Donnell Washington, etc etc...guys who have a lot to prove and have to PLAY to PROVE their worth in this league</p><p></p><p>PRO: Jim Bates "Likes" our d-line depth</p><p>CON: i'd be much more confident if there were only one spot to fill--either a healthy/present Grady or a Cleditus Hunt who tries...i'd be much more confident if we select Justin Tuck or Dan Cody in the second round, guys who will get to the QB moreso than Kampman who is a warrior, plays the run well, but not the greatest as a rusher...</p><p></p><p>PRO: don't forget we have a pretty good sack artist on the one end of the line</p><p>CON: lets not have it like last year where he has to be the only player that opposition offenses have to focus on</p><p></p><p>CON: Our secondary blew horiffically last year</p><p>PRO: Safeties to replace Darren Sharper and Mark Roman, IMO the WORST facet of a horrible '04 defense, no run support, no pass know-how, I'm glad to see Sharper gone and Mark Roman most likely bumped</p><p></p><p>PRO: Competition from Joey Thomas will either make Ahmad Caroll into a better player, or he'll just be bumped to nickleback duty</p><p>CON: Cornerback depth...one injury and we could be in serious trouble</p><p></p><p>PRO: IT'S NOT BOB SLOWIK...our defense will be more organized than last year, I'm confident that Jim Bates will better organize the defense because I'm confident that I COULD RUN A DEFENSE BETTER THAN BOB SLOWIK...we're not gonna leave our corners isolated and get burned, we're going to have organized blitz packages, not going to let backs run wild catching passes, etc.. </p><p></p><p>PRO: Jim Bates made the defense in Miami among the league's best</p><p>CON: do you really think the will turn dirt into gold THIS YEAR...i'm not saying he can't do it, but all at once, could be too much to ask...</p><p>PRO: I DO like our linebacking core, never liked naivies as a starter, but it's solid with him as a reserve</p><p></p><p>CON: This defense was bad all around last year, </p><p>PRO: Come on, can we do any worse</p><p></p><p>i can point/counterpoint myself all night, the point is, we're going to improve, but not by leaps and bounds...i'm excited to see that Jim Bates is our coordinator, we have nowhere to go but up...however I'm a little annoyed at the "oh well we have jim bates WHAT NOW b****" as the cure-all packer rallying cry...three schools of thought..."yes he will" "no he wont" and "we'll see"...i'm taking the we'll see, but i'll be in support either way</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HatestheEagles084, post: 13882, member: 180"] and like i've emphasized before, you're either negative, positive, or, like I am...REALISTIC pro's and con's: CON: No major help was added for our defensive line, no front seven talent was drafted PRO: Hunger on the defensive line, the two fat bums--Hunt and Jackson, it seems like they are making it their duty to screw themselves out of starting jobs...enter Cullen Jenkins, James Lee, Donnell Washington, etc etc...guys who have a lot to prove and have to PLAY to PROVE their worth in this league PRO: Jim Bates "Likes" our d-line depth CON: i'd be much more confident if there were only one spot to fill--either a healthy/present Grady or a Cleditus Hunt who tries...i'd be much more confident if we select Justin Tuck or Dan Cody in the second round, guys who will get to the QB moreso than Kampman who is a warrior, plays the run well, but not the greatest as a rusher... PRO: don't forget we have a pretty good sack artist on the one end of the line CON: lets not have it like last year where he has to be the only player that opposition offenses have to focus on CON: Our secondary blew horiffically last year PRO: Safeties to replace Darren Sharper and Mark Roman, IMO the WORST facet of a horrible '04 defense, no run support, no pass know-how, I'm glad to see Sharper gone and Mark Roman most likely bumped PRO: Competition from Joey Thomas will either make Ahmad Caroll into a better player, or he'll just be bumped to nickleback duty CON: Cornerback depth...one injury and we could be in serious trouble PRO: IT'S NOT BOB SLOWIK...our defense will be more organized than last year, I'm confident that Jim Bates will better organize the defense because I'm confident that I COULD RUN A DEFENSE BETTER THAN BOB SLOWIK...we're not gonna leave our corners isolated and get burned, we're going to have organized blitz packages, not going to let backs run wild catching passes, etc.. PRO: Jim Bates made the defense in Miami among the league's best CON: do you really think the will turn dirt into gold THIS YEAR...i'm not saying he can't do it, but all at once, could be too much to ask... PRO: I DO like our linebacking core, never liked naivies as a starter, but it's solid with him as a reserve CON: This defense was bad all around last year, PRO: Come on, can we do any worse i can point/counterpoint myself all night, the point is, we're going to improve, but not by leaps and bounds...i'm excited to see that Jim Bates is our coordinator, we have nowhere to go but up...however I'm a little annoyed at the "oh well we have jim bates WHAT NOW b****" as the cure-all packer rallying cry...three schools of thought..."yes he will" "no he wont" and "we'll see"...i'm taking the we'll see, but i'll be in support either way [/QUOTE]
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