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<blockquote data-quote="Voyageur" data-source="post: 1088287" data-attributes="member: 17953"><p>You're right. They didn't land those 4+ & 5 star players prior to Fickell, but what they did do well was get a bunch of farm kids who were big, strong, and could play in the offensive line, and usually without leaving the state of Wisconsin. They also were able to get a lot of 'tweeners who were 3-star rated because they came from small schools and the walk-ons Wisconsin has had has turned into a who's who in the NFL after excelling as Badgers.</p><p></p><p>What happened is that Fickell turned his back on these kids as if there weren't any good players unless they came from out East, and the central area of talent was in Ohio. Fickell ended up losing the high school pipelines that have existed for the Badgers since Alvarez got those doors opened during his time as head coach.</p><p></p><p>As far as the players being brought in, nobody said they aren't good. I just said they aren't in the top group at each position because those guys are getting NIL deals that compare to what a guy gets going into the NFL as an early pick.</p><p></p><p>Even if the "collective money" appears to be even between Ohio State and Wisconsin, that's not even scratching the surface as to what else is paid in NIL money. You want to see how it works? Meet some of the people I know down here in Texas who are associated with the Longhorns program. For guys who are contributing, but not even necessarily first-string players, there will be upwards of $500k in money beyond the collective headed in their direction for meet and greets, and often more. Money is no object.</p><p></p><p>Something very interesting here. Easily verified. The following top 25 teams from this past season based on the rankings. Texas Tech, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Texas, Houston, and North Texas. All six are being super funded beyond the collective from wealthy oil magnates. That's a lot of top teams for the entire nation from a small area. The top 3 in the rankings. Indiana, Ohio State, and Georgia. Check out their NIL funding beyond their collectives. It's enough to choke a horse and you'll never wade through all of it because it's considered private enterprise therefore not necessary to be divulged. </p><p></p><p>I'm a realist. When you're bringing in guys who didn't start for a 2nd or 3rd tier NCAA team and thinking he's the best thing since sliced white bread I become skeptical. I don't fall for hype. I want to see that so called "potential" play out on the field.</p><p></p><p>To me, if the Badgers win as many as they lose this coming season it's going to be like Indiana going unbeaten all the way through to win a Natty this year.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Voyageur, post: 1088287, member: 17953"] You're right. They didn't land those 4+ & 5 star players prior to Fickell, but what they did do well was get a bunch of farm kids who were big, strong, and could play in the offensive line, and usually without leaving the state of Wisconsin. They also were able to get a lot of 'tweeners who were 3-star rated because they came from small schools and the walk-ons Wisconsin has had has turned into a who's who in the NFL after excelling as Badgers. What happened is that Fickell turned his back on these kids as if there weren't any good players unless they came from out East, and the central area of talent was in Ohio. Fickell ended up losing the high school pipelines that have existed for the Badgers since Alvarez got those doors opened during his time as head coach. As far as the players being brought in, nobody said they aren't good. I just said they aren't in the top group at each position because those guys are getting NIL deals that compare to what a guy gets going into the NFL as an early pick. Even if the "collective money" appears to be even between Ohio State and Wisconsin, that's not even scratching the surface as to what else is paid in NIL money. You want to see how it works? Meet some of the people I know down here in Texas who are associated with the Longhorns program. For guys who are contributing, but not even necessarily first-string players, there will be upwards of $500k in money beyond the collective headed in their direction for meet and greets, and often more. Money is no object. Something very interesting here. Easily verified. The following top 25 teams from this past season based on the rankings. Texas Tech, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Texas, Houston, and North Texas. All six are being super funded beyond the collective from wealthy oil magnates. That's a lot of top teams for the entire nation from a small area. The top 3 in the rankings. Indiana, Ohio State, and Georgia. Check out their NIL funding beyond their collectives. It's enough to choke a horse and you'll never wade through all of it because it's considered private enterprise therefore not necessary to be divulged. I'm a realist. When you're bringing in guys who didn't start for a 2nd or 3rd tier NCAA team and thinking he's the best thing since sliced white bread I become skeptical. I don't fall for hype. I want to see that so called "potential" play out on the field. To me, if the Badgers win as many as they lose this coming season it's going to be like Indiana going unbeaten all the way through to win a Natty this year. [/QUOTE]
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