most packer fans i know ( and i lived in De Pere) during the 80s early 90s were wearing 49er zoobas back then but after favre got there and they got to the playoffs became die hard fans so lets be honest about when u became a die hard fan was it really pre favre era? im not a packer fan but my parents are and they were there in the 80s during forest gregg and randy wright buying season tickets through a guy from work after favres second season the guys son who was about 30 at the time decided he was a "die hard fan" so no more tickets for my parents. so if u were there when micheal haddix was their leading rusher with about 300 yards for the year then u can call yourself a die hard