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<blockquote data-quote="mradtke66" data-source="post: 431639" data-attributes="member: 4199"><p>Especially that. In our 3-4, we don't have d-ends in the Osi or Tuck mold. While pass rush from our linemen is nice, it isn't really in the job requirement list. They need to be big and strong for running defense. I believe the ideal end in the 3-4 is about 6-5" to get into passing lanes and 300 pounds to hold up in the run game.</p><p> </p><p>What 3-4 teams call 'ends' have much more in common with 4-3 teams' 3-technique defensive tackles. Except in the 4-3, that position is more of playmaker position. 3-4 ends are 'just guys.'</p><p> </p><p>Now, when we kick into our nickel, it changes completely, more so because of how much time we spend in nickel. In run-down nickel, we're okay with Pickett, Raji, and Matthews. A second, viable outside linebacker would make this set great. </p><p> </p><p>Pass-down nickel, we could use a second interior rusher AND that viable OLB.</p><p> </p><p>The problem is that there aren't a lot of good pass rushing 3-techniques, which is what our ends become in nickel. Those that do exist tend to be shorter, so we'd be compromising on height. Plus we'd likely have to draft high to get them. And then they might only be part-time players--too short or not stout enough on running downs.</p><p> </p><p>TL, DR: I assert that the second pass rushing linebacker is more important than DL help.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mradtke66, post: 431639, member: 4199"] Especially that. In our 3-4, we don't have d-ends in the Osi or Tuck mold. While pass rush from our linemen is nice, it isn't really in the job requirement list. They need to be big and strong for running defense. I believe the ideal end in the 3-4 is about 6-5" to get into passing lanes and 300 pounds to hold up in the run game. What 3-4 teams call 'ends' have much more in common with 4-3 teams' 3-technique defensive tackles. Except in the 4-3, that position is more of playmaker position. 3-4 ends are 'just guys.' Now, when we kick into our nickel, it changes completely, more so because of how much time we spend in nickel. In run-down nickel, we're okay with Pickett, Raji, and Matthews. A second, viable outside linebacker would make this set great. Pass-down nickel, we could use a second interior rusher AND that viable OLB. The problem is that there aren't a lot of good pass rushing 3-techniques, which is what our ends become in nickel. Those that do exist tend to be shorter, so we'd be compromising on height. Plus we'd likely have to draft high to get them. And then they might only be part-time players--too short or not stout enough on running downs. TL, DR: I assert that the second pass rushing linebacker is more important than DL help. [/QUOTE]
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