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<blockquote data-quote="adambr2" data-source="post: 527833" data-attributes="member: 7277"><p>Here's a question, then, for those fans of Capers or those who think the players are the only ones that matter. </p><p></p><p>How does Rob Ryan come to New Orleans this year, instill a new 3-4 defense, and turn a horrifically bad defense into one of the best in the league, all the while Capers is still trying to figure it out 5 years later in Green Bay? Please don't say injuries -- the Saints have had plenty this year on defense as well. Is it the coaching or is it the drafting? </p><p></p><p>You can say "the players are good enough and the coaching is good enough and the schemes are good enough but the players are not executing"......for a couple games. You don't just "fail to execute" in 2 straight divisional playoff games, 5 straight regular season games, etc. Eventually you have to consider that either A) your players are just not nearly as good as you think they are, or B) your players are unlikely to succeed in your scheme or with your coaching, due to any number of factors -- it is too complex for them, they fail to motivate, they are outdated, or fail to adjust from a rigid gameplan. It could be any of those, none of these, or a combination. </p><p></p><p>I can't be convinced that coaching and scheme doesn't matter. Especially when you invest multiple high draft picks in defense and still regress. </p><p></p><p>I also can't understand any argument based on the premise that players are the ones making plays. Don't get me wrong -- I think execution is certainly a big part of what's wrong, but we're looking at a pretty big sample size. I think we are all very well aware that no offensive and defensive coordinators are going to be suiting up and fumbling the football or biting on play-action. This does not mean they are all equally effective.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="adambr2, post: 527833, member: 7277"] Here's a question, then, for those fans of Capers or those who think the players are the only ones that matter. How does Rob Ryan come to New Orleans this year, instill a new 3-4 defense, and turn a horrifically bad defense into one of the best in the league, all the while Capers is still trying to figure it out 5 years later in Green Bay? Please don't say injuries -- the Saints have had plenty this year on defense as well. Is it the coaching or is it the drafting? You can say "the players are good enough and the coaching is good enough and the schemes are good enough but the players are not executing"......for a couple games. You don't just "fail to execute" in 2 straight divisional playoff games, 5 straight regular season games, etc. Eventually you have to consider that either A) your players are just not nearly as good as you think they are, or B) your players are unlikely to succeed in your scheme or with your coaching, due to any number of factors -- it is too complex for them, they fail to motivate, they are outdated, or fail to adjust from a rigid gameplan. It could be any of those, none of these, or a combination. I can't be convinced that coaching and scheme doesn't matter. Especially when you invest multiple high draft picks in defense and still regress. I also can't understand any argument based on the premise that players are the ones making plays. Don't get me wrong -- I think execution is certainly a big part of what's wrong, but we're looking at a pretty big sample size. I think we are all very well aware that no offensive and defensive coordinators are going to be suiting up and fumbling the football or biting on play-action. This does not mean they are all equally effective. [/QUOTE]
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