1. Welcome to Green Bay Packers NFL Football Forum & Community!
    Packer Forum is one of the largest online communities for the Green Bay Packers.

    You are currently viewing our community forums as a guest user.

    Sign Up or

    Having an account grants you additional privileges, such as creating and participating in discussions. Furthermore, we hide most of the ads once you register as a member!
    Dismiss Notice

AJ Hawk

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by Rocky11, Feb 17, 2012.

  1. The Drew

    The Drew #packergang

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2009
    Messages:
    1,266
    Ratings:
    +488
    Yeah he had some injuries but stayed healthy this year in Buffalo and had a good season with the Bills... I love AJ but he isnt getting it done...
     
  2. 13 Times Champs

    13 Times Champs Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2011
    Messages:
    3,924
    Ratings:
    +1,379
    He sucks. That's my firm position.
     
  3. 13 Times Champs

    13 Times Champs Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2011
    Messages:
    3,924
    Ratings:
    +1,379
    Since we are into I told you so's, there's someone else I said we should have kept. ;)
     
    • Like Like x 1
  4. Chicocheese

    Chicocheese Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2011
    Messages:
    615
    Ratings:
    +209
    I am too scared to buy Rookie jerseys anymore. However, I do own 2 Clay Matthews jerseys. Well, I have one and my wife has one. Mine has the Super Bowl XLV patch. I was thiiiiiiiissss close to get a Hawk one though. He is a guy like Finely, I want to like him more than I do. However, that play he made in the endzone against the Saints in week 1 was killer. I still say no penalty!
     
    • Like Like x 2
  5. Rocky11

    Rocky11 Superbowl bound Pack

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2012
    Messages:
    231
    Ratings:
    +61
    I agree. I also would like to like Hawk and Finley but it is tough. Too many missed tackles and too many drops for my liking. My wife ran out and bought a Jordy Nelson jersey. She liked him from the beginning. He was a good choice. Hawk however was not. Maybe I would look good in a Clay Mathews Jersey. A bigger jersey covers a larger belly better.
     
  6. gbpowner

    gbpowner Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2010
    Messages:
    213
    Ratings:
    +98
    Alleluia to this thread! My hubby and I can't have a civil discussion when it comes to Hawk. I'm firmly in the: "he can't run, tackle or cover anyone!" camp & the hubby thinks that he has value as the defensive QB and that Hawk is assignment sure. Who the heck cares if he's assignment sure when he's running 5yds behind the RB or receiver OR he's wrapped up in a bear hug with an OL OR he's taking the "proper" angle waiting for someone else to make the damn tackle!!

    More that likely we will not be able to dump his contract but please, please, please...give somebody else a fair shot at putting Hawk on the bench.
     
  7. realcaliforniacheese

    realcaliforniacheese A-Rods Boss

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2011
    Messages:
    2,272
    Ratings:
    +966
    Ok, so lots of you don't think AJ should be on the field. So who you gonna replace him with? Whats your answer to the position, keeping in mind we have alot of other priority's on the D right now, like DE, OLB, S, Depth in the secondary and D line. Maybe Hawk is doing exactly what Capers is asking him to do, Maybe he is playing his assignment. Just being the DA here no sense replacing a guy if your not upgrading the position.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  8. TJV

    TJV Lifelong Packers Fanatic

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2011
    Messages:
    4,280
    Ratings:
    +3,325
    gbpowner, you could tell your husband he could know the playbook backwards and forwards and know the assignments cold and it still wouldn’t make sense to have him on the field either. And you tell him he was involved in exactly the same number of turnover plays as Hawk was this past season. … Or you could opt for domestic tranquility and just think it.

    Packers fans are harder on Hawk because of where he was drafted but after finally playing a decent season he stunk it up this season. According to McGinn he missed six more tackles than in any of his previous five seasons.

    Who takes his place? Probably no one but I’d have Francois and DJ Smith fight it out and I’d be confident I’d get more production than Hawk provided this season. Smith hits hard and wasn’t bad in coverage. Francois played 2.5 games and had two INTs.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  9. GeeDogWarrior

    GeeDogWarrior 0 - 0

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2011
    Messages:
    386
    Ratings:
    +139
    any time I see AJ Hawk, I think of Vernon Davis in a Packer uniform, I think of That Ngata guy from the ravens in a Packer Uniform, I see MJD in our uniform, heck... we make the playoffs in 2006 and probably win superbowl 42 if we had MJD, an awesome HB.... gerrrh! :mad:
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  10. 7thFloorRA

    7thFloorRA Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2011
    Messages:
    1,924
    Ratings:
    +842
    This topic should not rest until he is gone. I do not care how much money he is owed. An undrafted free agent can fill his roster spot and Smith and Francois can play in place of him. Just because he got paid does not mean he should have to be on the field completely sucking it up. If the money is spent....then it is spent. Move on and put the best product on the field, not the guy who got paid and makes the defense worse.
     
  11. Rocky11

    Rocky11 Superbowl bound Pack

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2012
    Messages:
    231
    Ratings:
    +61
    We need a Ray Nitchke. He was not afraid. Hawk would rather fall on a pile than actually put his head down and tackle someone. I get so tired of watching him. He is not a leader and that is what we need. We need a linebacker who people are afraid of. When I played high school football we were all afraid of our middle linebacker. Not just guys on the other teams but everybody was afraid of this guy. We all thought he was crazy. That is not AJ Hawk.
     
  12. shield4life

    shield4life Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2009
    Messages:
    52
    Ratings:
    +7
    The problem is that Hawk has had many chances to improve his game and hasn't all tho Finley seems raw & still young. He has much more room to improve. We have to give a chance to Finley, this guy is / will become a very dangerous TE and I hope he becomes one playing in Green Bay.
     
  13. Rocky11

    Rocky11 Superbowl bound Pack

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2012
    Messages:
    231
    Ratings:
    +61
    I agree with you shield4life. I do get frustrated with Finley but I think he does have potential. He runs good routes. He just needs to work on those untimely drops.
     
  14. HyponGrey

    HyponGrey Caseus Locutus Est

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2012
    Messages:
    3,758
    Ratings:
    +1,030
    http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/a...h_who_starts_for_the_packers_in_2012/10409479

    http://greenandgoldtickets.com/news/packers-might-cut-a.j.-hawk-in-2012/

    Hawk has horrible this season, and it's only going to get worse. He would make a decent enough back-up though if only we didn pay him so much. Put him on the trade block, and ask for a 3 (or a 4) try the Eagles, the Steelers, or Seattle. Heck, I wanted to see Hawk on the outside with Walden, Jones, and Zombo to see if he might be worth trying to keep there

    The ONLY player he might have outperformed was Peprah, and that's just because he was :poop:
     
  15. HyponGrey

    HyponGrey Caseus Locutus Est

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2012
    Messages:
    3,758
    Ratings:
    +1,030
    Don't remind me...

    1. Our BACKUPS (either of them) are an upgrade from Hawk, you could say we ALREADY drafted his replacement.
    2. IF (and that is one big, unlikely if) Collins returns we have a *deficiency* at safety, not a *need* just like we had a *deficiency* of interior linemen
     
  16. ivo610

    ivo610 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2010
    Messages:
    16,296
    Ratings:
    +4,132
    I don't think Vernon Davis would have succeeded in GB like he has in SF. He had some very rocky years there
     
  17. 13 Times Champs

    13 Times Champs Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2011
    Messages:
    3,924
    Ratings:
    +1,379
    Would someone please take Hawk for a third round pick? :(
     
  18. SEWICHEESE

    SEWICHEESE Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2011
    Messages:
    112
    Ratings:
    +19


    I'd give him away for a 7th round pick just to get rid of his inflated salary. That would be a bargain IMO.
     
  19. ExpatPacker

    ExpatPacker Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2011
    Messages:
    1,324
    Ratings:
    +519
    I'd give him away for free if some team would take on his salary.
     
  20. SEWICHEESE

    SEWICHEESE Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2011
    Messages:
    112
    Ratings:
    +19


    Yeah, if that was possible so would I.
     
  21. 13 Times Champs

    13 Times Champs Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2011
    Messages:
    3,924
    Ratings:
    +1,379
    Dan Snyder has lots of money and a joke of a football operation. Maybe he will accomodate us.;)
     
  22. El Guapo

    El Guapo Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2011
    Messages:
    2,653
    Ratings:
    +1,489
    Wow, there is some serious buyer's remorse here.

    Hawk certainly has not lived up to the superstar status everyone expects from a #5 overall pick. However, he has been consistent most of his career. I'm sure that someone will chime in to say that he consistently sucks, but that's not a true statement. Yeah we all expected better and for many years he was outplayed by Barnett. After Barnett started suffering his injuries and then the big one in 2010, Hawk stepped it up. He played well that season and that prompted management to extend his contract. Unfortunately, Hawk (like the rest of the defense) collapsed last year.

    I'm no homer for Hawk. I really couldn't care. I do think that many of you are being too bandwagon about how bad you think that he is. That entire defense sucked so to single out individual players at this point is unproductive.
     
  23. PMAC8316

    PMAC8316 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2012
    Messages:
    8
    Ratings:
    +2
    I agree with you on Barnett. AJ Hawk has never been even close to being consistently good. I wish they would cut or restructure his current deal. GB could look at the draft and get someone to upgrade along side Bishop. If Collins doesn't come back then they will have to look at safety but hopefully their first few picks are to upgrade the front 7 of the defense.
     
  24. wholovesbevers

    wholovesbevers Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2012
    Messages:
    12
    Ratings:
    +11
    I would have been in favor of keeping Barnett over Hawk if Barnett wasn't such an *** off the field. Keep your eyes on D.J. Smith, he's the man in my opinion.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  25. Rocky11

    Rocky11 Superbowl bound Pack

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2012
    Messages:
    231
    Ratings:
    +61
    People are going to be mad at Hawk for a long time. I agree, they should trade ASAP.
     

Share This Page