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  4. SELECT EWRporta2_articles.*, xf_thread.*, xf_post.*, xf_user.*, EWRporta2_authors.*
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Then all the crack babies started coming out the woodwork, those that came back to seek vengeance against an organization that I'll assume they rarely follow outside of Sunday, if they follow it at all. I am pissed. I am pissed at the organization, I am pissed at Brett, and I am pissed at the posters that have made this forum into a piece of trash. The moderators refuse to take action, and it is now the last place I want to be. What was once a fine forum is nothing more than a bunch of punks that want to talk smack but have nothing to back it up. In the last week I have been called a fag, a fucker, and shunned for the contribution I have made to this forum. You have disrespected my friends, you have disrespected me, you have disrespected yourself. When I read that Raider Pride is looking for other forums, that is all I need to hear. Rest assured, I have been looking too. I have pondered all morning on what this post should like. Should I be civil and argue rationally? No, that obviously doesn't work. Should I bow down to the morons that insist on taking over, of course not. I thought long and hard on how to sum up my feelings around here, and exactly how to express them. I could use some big words, I could break it down for you, but I don't think it would matter. I'm done around here, and that in unfortunate. This used to be a fun place, filled with Packer fans. Now it is a dump filled with the cast-offs that have come back for one fruitless farewell. There is no intelligent way to respond to you, there is no way for you to ever be my friend. So, dd80forever, Anubis, and da_real_deal congratulations. You have driven one of the most dedicated packerforum members to pack his bags and leave. I would like to exit with an intelligent line as I ride off into the sunset, but intelligence isn't your forte. Instead I will condense it into two words, two words that you won't need a dictionary for. 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