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<blockquote data-quote="Dantés" data-source="post: 844350" data-attributes="member: 12283"><p>The Athletic's Sheil Kapadia recently put out an article that gave some interesting metrics. I'm not going to share the full results, but here are the Packers totals:</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Explosive Rate: </strong>These are 20+ yd plays adjusted for total numbers of drop backs.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Aaron Rodgers, 7.81% (25th)</li> </ul><p><strong>Deep Throwing Rate: </strong>These are pass attempts that travel 20+ yards past the LOS, adjusted for total drop backs, with pass attempts inside the opposing RZ removed.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Aaron Rodges: 17.19% (8th)</li> </ul><p><strong>Pressure Rate: </strong>Sacks and hits adjusted for drop backs.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Aaron Rodgers: 31.94% (6th)</li> </ul><p><strong>Pressure Rate (Def): </strong>Sacks and hits adjusted for opposing drop backs.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Packers: 24.14% (10th)</li> </ul><p><strong>Pressure Rate (Def/Ind): </strong>Sacks and hits adjusted for opposing drop backs, by player.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Preston Smith: 10% (21st- Tie)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Za'Darius Smith: 6.94% (48th)</li> </ul><p></p><p>Some of this matches observation, and some is a little surprising. We all know the offense has sputtered so far and that Rodgers is taking too many sacks/hits. The Packers have also played two really good pass rushing teams so far. </p><p></p><p>But to my eye test, the Smith's have looked a lot better than 21st and 48th. </p><p></p><p>But that's kind of the point. I bring this up to illustrate that advanced metrics, depending on how they're sliced, can contradict other metrics as well as the "eye test."</p><p></p><p>My understanding is that PFF has the Packers at #1 or #2 in pressure? And I know they feel very good about our protection. I'm not saying they're right and Kapadia's wrong, or even vice versa.</p><p></p><p>What I am saying is that metrics like this, regardless of source, are informative but not conclusive. I see PFF metrics cited all the time as though they settle a question. That's just misleading. Often, those guys prove they aren't very good at analyzing the game, and furthermore, how set the perameters of a stat will have a big influence on the results. </p><p></p><p>For example, PFF can decide for itself what it considers a "pressure." By their definition, Z. Smith is the best in the league. But when Kapadia restricts the perameters to the more concrete "sacks and hits," Smith drops to 48. </p><p></p><p>Who is right? Both. And neither. Our eyes should be telling us that Z is balling out. The metrics should just help inform what we are seeing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dantés, post: 844350, member: 12283"] The Athletic's Sheil Kapadia recently put out an article that gave some interesting metrics. I'm not going to share the full results, but here are the Packers totals: [B]Explosive Rate: [/B]These are 20+ yd plays adjusted for total numbers of drop backs. [LIST] [*]Aaron Rodgers, 7.81% (25th) [/LIST] [B]Deep Throwing Rate: [/B]These are pass attempts that travel 20+ yards past the LOS, adjusted for total drop backs, with pass attempts inside the opposing RZ removed. [LIST] [*]Aaron Rodges: 17.19% (8th) [/LIST] [B]Pressure Rate: [/B]Sacks and hits adjusted for drop backs. [LIST] [*]Aaron Rodgers: 31.94% (6th) [/LIST] [B]Pressure Rate (Def): [/B]Sacks and hits adjusted for opposing drop backs. [LIST] [*]Packers: 24.14% (10th) [/LIST] [B]Pressure Rate (Def/Ind): [/B]Sacks and hits adjusted for opposing drop backs, by player. [LIST] [*]Preston Smith: 10% (21st- Tie) [*]Za'Darius Smith: 6.94% (48th) [/LIST] Some of this matches observation, and some is a little surprising. We all know the offense has sputtered so far and that Rodgers is taking too many sacks/hits. The Packers have also played two really good pass rushing teams so far. But to my eye test, the Smith's have looked a lot better than 21st and 48th. But that's kind of the point. I bring this up to illustrate that advanced metrics, depending on how they're sliced, can contradict other metrics as well as the "eye test." My understanding is that PFF has the Packers at #1 or #2 in pressure? And I know they feel very good about our protection. I'm not saying they're right and Kapadia's wrong, or even vice versa. What I am saying is that metrics like this, regardless of source, are informative but not conclusive. I see PFF metrics cited all the time as though they settle a question. That's just misleading. Often, those guys prove they aren't very good at analyzing the game, and furthermore, how set the perameters of a stat will have a big influence on the results. For example, PFF can decide for itself what it considers a "pressure." By their definition, Z. Smith is the best in the league. But when Kapadia restricts the perameters to the more concrete "sacks and hits," Smith drops to 48. Who is right? Both. And neither. Our eyes should be telling us that Z is balling out. The metrics should just help inform what we are seeing. [/QUOTE]
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