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<blockquote data-quote="Bogart" data-source="post: 391083" data-attributes="member: 3900"><p>Disagree with you on Marino, and Young.</p><p></p><p>Young similar to Rodgers was brought into that system of westcoast offense and that's why it worked. Yeah you can say he was loaded with good play makers, but when it came right down to depending on him, he was a threat with his legs and arm. Both of them sat on the bench while being trained into that offense. Steve Young was one of my favorite quarterbacks, and you forget, he was thrown into a very bad situation with Tampa Bay. Look at highlights of them, their O-Line and everything was very very terrible. They could have had a better quarterback and still same results with no team built around. Young sat on that bench to learn, and in the long run it helped him. In Tampa Bay they just threw him out to the wolves with no O-line to protect him.</p><p></p><p>Dan Marino played in the days quarterbacks could be killed. Sure you can say he's "All arm" but do not forget, back in the 1980's, quarterbacks could not throw the ball out of bounds, you had to force it or you'd get a penalty. People love to down the guy for his interceptions, but what's a bigger accomplishment? Drew Brees throwing for 5,000 yards a few years ago with rules favoring the quarterback, or Marino with 5,000 yards back when rules didn't help quarterbacks?</p><p>Brady had 49 TD's a few years back, and Manning too, but it didn't thrill me as much as Marino hitting 48 Touchdowns back when Quarterbacks got treated like every other player in the league. Plus, he was a playoff quarterback. Marino may not have won a Super Bowl, but he was not a quitter. No QB deserves a ring more than Jim Kelly I believe after showing up in 4 Super Bowls, but if Trent Dilfer and Ben Roethlisberger have rings, then Marino should have one.</p><p></p><p>I hate comparing quarterbacks today to quarterbacks of the past because it was such a different game. Brady can break every record there is but he's still not going to be better than Montana to me. Montana was the greatest quarterback I believe ever played the game, and he did it without rules favoring him such as all the ridiculous penalties today and the tuck rule. Also this is why guys like Moon, Kelly, and Marino stand out.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bogart, post: 391083, member: 3900"] Disagree with you on Marino, and Young. Young similar to Rodgers was brought into that system of westcoast offense and that's why it worked. Yeah you can say he was loaded with good play makers, but when it came right down to depending on him, he was a threat with his legs and arm. Both of them sat on the bench while being trained into that offense. Steve Young was one of my favorite quarterbacks, and you forget, he was thrown into a very bad situation with Tampa Bay. Look at highlights of them, their O-Line and everything was very very terrible. They could have had a better quarterback and still same results with no team built around. Young sat on that bench to learn, and in the long run it helped him. In Tampa Bay they just threw him out to the wolves with no O-line to protect him. Dan Marino played in the days quarterbacks could be killed. Sure you can say he's "All arm" but do not forget, back in the 1980's, quarterbacks could not throw the ball out of bounds, you had to force it or you'd get a penalty. People love to down the guy for his interceptions, but what's a bigger accomplishment? Drew Brees throwing for 5,000 yards a few years ago with rules favoring the quarterback, or Marino with 5,000 yards back when rules didn't help quarterbacks? Brady had 49 TD's a few years back, and Manning too, but it didn't thrill me as much as Marino hitting 48 Touchdowns back when Quarterbacks got treated like every other player in the league. Plus, he was a playoff quarterback. Marino may not have won a Super Bowl, but he was not a quitter. No QB deserves a ring more than Jim Kelly I believe after showing up in 4 Super Bowls, but if Trent Dilfer and Ben Roethlisberger have rings, then Marino should have one. I hate comparing quarterbacks today to quarterbacks of the past because it was such a different game. Brady can break every record there is but he's still not going to be better than Montana to me. Montana was the greatest quarterback I believe ever played the game, and he did it without rules favoring him such as all the ridiculous penalties today and the tuck rule. Also this is why guys like Moon, Kelly, and Marino stand out. [/QUOTE]
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