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<blockquote data-quote="weeds" data-source="post: 390719" data-attributes="member: 39"><p>I hate comparing players of a different eras and different systems; different athletic skills. All that I can say is that Joe Montana was a surgeon. There was no doubt just who the best player on the field was when Montana was executing that offense. The guy just seemed to NEVER make that critical mistake that would cost the 9'ers the game. In that regard, I see and remember a good number of those traits in Rodgers. He's smart...calculating and knows where EVERYONE in his offense are supposed to be at all times. He's young yet so his arm strength hasn't diminished yet...that's when the laser balls into double coverage start catching up on a QB...Montana didn't try many of those because Walsh would have **** a screaming worm... Rodgers is 10X the running threat that Montana was, but in that early Stanford West Coast offense that the 9'ers ran, he wasn't supposed to run...he was to dump the ball into the flats to his FB - most memorably, Roger Craig...</p><p></p><p>If I was pushed to make a statement, I'd say that in year 4 as a starter ... as memory serves me ... I'd call it a toss-up. Rodgers does a lot of things that Montana couldn't or didn't within that system ... and Montana was...well, Montana. Show me the rings, baby... you know? Fact is that if Montana played under the current rules protecting QB's and restricting DB's there's not doubt in my mind that Montana would have been even more of a force. I'd still have to go with Montana...but because he has a complete body of work, you know?</p><p></p><p>Young? He was serviceable ... truthfully. I was never too impressed with Steve Young, but only because HE is the guy that fell into a good situation...I mean, I remember him as the guy who couldn't make Tampa Bay a winner...but, suddenly became "god" when he's put into a successful system. Rodgers is a complete QB, even at this stage.</p><p></p><p>Marino... all arm....I never felt he was always in control of his offense. Rodgers</p><p></p><p>Bradshaw --- again...in my opinion, a product of Chuck Noll's system. Frankly, history says that it was really a toss up between Terry Hanratty and Bradshaw. Make no mistake, I'm not dissing Bradshaw, again, show me the rings, baby ... but when you're handing the ball off to Franco Harris and Rocky Bleier ... and there's a defense like the Steel Curtain... my gawd... go look at some of those names... Mel Blount, Chris Hanburger, Hacksaw Reynolds, Joe Greene, Greenwood, Holmes and White... again, from a pure standpoint at this stage, if forced to make a statement, I'd go with Rodgers.</p><p></p><p>Favre -- You know, I don't have *** for Favre because I never idolized him...still, even though Favre was winning MVP's, his carelessness with the ball even back then always scared the living hell out of me. "You live or die with Brett Favre" became the 'vogue' saying during this time. My preference has always been for smart QB's who are careful with the ball...and so, if I had my choice - all things being equal - I'd take Rodgers.</p><p></p><p>Starr -- as I said in previous post. The gold standard is 5 Championships in 7 years. Show me the rings baby. For that system at that time ... he's the man.</p><p></p><p>Brady -- what can you say. All the guy does is perform. For a Belichek system, he's the guy ... for a McCarthy system, probably not... he's become a pocket passer and that's what's expected of him. If he had to execute an offense other than a McCarthy offense, he may or may not be as successful. From a pure thrower standpoint...he's the guy to be sure.</p><p></p><p>Archie Manning -- again, from a pure thrower standpoint if that's the only criteria ... he was good.</p><p></p><p>Peyton Manning -- pure thrower. What can you say?</p><p></p><p>Each of these guys has something different. Have I hedged enough for you? hahaha.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="weeds, post: 390719, member: 39"] I hate comparing players of a different eras and different systems; different athletic skills. All that I can say is that Joe Montana was a surgeon. There was no doubt just who the best player on the field was when Montana was executing that offense. The guy just seemed to NEVER make that critical mistake that would cost the 9'ers the game. In that regard, I see and remember a good number of those traits in Rodgers. He's smart...calculating and knows where EVERYONE in his offense are supposed to be at all times. He's young yet so his arm strength hasn't diminished yet...that's when the laser balls into double coverage start catching up on a QB...Montana didn't try many of those because Walsh would have **** a screaming worm... Rodgers is 10X the running threat that Montana was, but in that early Stanford West Coast offense that the 9'ers ran, he wasn't supposed to run...he was to dump the ball into the flats to his FB - most memorably, Roger Craig... If I was pushed to make a statement, I'd say that in year 4 as a starter ... as memory serves me ... I'd call it a toss-up. Rodgers does a lot of things that Montana couldn't or didn't within that system ... and Montana was...well, Montana. Show me the rings, baby... you know? Fact is that if Montana played under the current rules protecting QB's and restricting DB's there's not doubt in my mind that Montana would have been even more of a force. I'd still have to go with Montana...but because he has a complete body of work, you know? Young? He was serviceable ... truthfully. I was never too impressed with Steve Young, but only because HE is the guy that fell into a good situation...I mean, I remember him as the guy who couldn't make Tampa Bay a winner...but, suddenly became "god" when he's put into a successful system. Rodgers is a complete QB, even at this stage. Marino... all arm....I never felt he was always in control of his offense. Rodgers Bradshaw --- again...in my opinion, a product of Chuck Noll's system. Frankly, history says that it was really a toss up between Terry Hanratty and Bradshaw. Make no mistake, I'm not dissing Bradshaw, again, show me the rings, baby ... but when you're handing the ball off to Franco Harris and Rocky Bleier ... and there's a defense like the Steel Curtain... my gawd... go look at some of those names... Mel Blount, Chris Hanburger, Hacksaw Reynolds, Joe Greene, Greenwood, Holmes and White... again, from a pure standpoint at this stage, if forced to make a statement, I'd go with Rodgers. Favre -- You know, I don't have *** for Favre because I never idolized him...still, even though Favre was winning MVP's, his carelessness with the ball even back then always scared the living hell out of me. "You live or die with Brett Favre" became the 'vogue' saying during this time. My preference has always been for smart QB's who are careful with the ball...and so, if I had my choice - all things being equal - I'd take Rodgers. Starr -- as I said in previous post. The gold standard is 5 Championships in 7 years. Show me the rings baby. For that system at that time ... he's the man. Brady -- what can you say. All the guy does is perform. For a Belichek system, he's the guy ... for a McCarthy system, probably not... he's become a pocket passer and that's what's expected of him. If he had to execute an offense other than a McCarthy offense, he may or may not be as successful. From a pure thrower standpoint...he's the guy to be sure. Archie Manning -- again, from a pure thrower standpoint if that's the only criteria ... he was good. Peyton Manning -- pure thrower. What can you say? Each of these guys has something different. Have I hedged enough for you? hahaha. [/QUOTE]
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